Where do you jack up your Expedition?

[and0r]

oh deary me

another expert

expert? surely you are not resorting to passive name calling right now.
rather we should be discussing why these supposed tests literally don't prove a thing

 

[Bedrck47]

i commend your position at some kind of axle testing facility, however these supposed tests do not prove anything.
once again i need to repeat myself - the differential is a precision component. there is no way any of those "indestructible" differentials are going to last on the road more than 5,000 miles after running those tests. its quite silly of you to think these tests would even prove anything. yes, the housing wasn't completely destroyed, so what. this proves nothing. it seems that you are really going out of your way with poor facts and data. no offence

Going back to a thread that you made earlier you stated

"I kind of need this info as a crutch due to my inexperience"

And in reading all of this thread I must say that you have become some kind of an expert overnight.


As I posted earlier
"Just think WE have members on this forum that DO NOT charge or get paid to break stuff
But they want FREE advice on how to fix what they broke"

I think you fall into that that type

 

[and0r]

your credibility is fading quick

 

[drewactual]

This guy is an idiot... seriously...

You may want to leave mechanical activities to mechanics... wow... I mean, you tried to jack your truck off the ground, something my 12 year old could do with confidence, and you made it "crooked".. your words not mine. And you want to question people's experience and knowledge because you lack understanding in structural integrity of a friggin' differential. Amazing.

 

[and0r]

im really trying to understand why you would think these "beaming" tests would prove anything significant, and why you would even bring such poor information up.
have these axles been installed on a vehicle and ran after this "beaming"? of course not, don't be silly now friend.
ironically you are calling me an expert, when you are the one who is claiming to work at some kind of national axle laboratory or something. and presenting ridiculous data

 

[and0r]

This guy is an idiot... seriously...

You may want to leave mechanical activities to mechanics... wow... I mean, you tried to jack your truck off the ground, something my 12 year old could do with confidence, and you made it "crooked".. your words not mine. And you want to question people's experience and knowledge because you lack understanding in structural integrity of a friggin' differential. Amazing.

ahahaha, more name calling
this is amusing me now

quite pathetic, friendo

 

[Big Brian]

expert? surely you are not resorting to passive name calling right now.
rather we should be discussing why these supposed tests literally don't prove a thing

this "supposed" test is not just to test the housing. It is to test the axle assembly as a whole. After the test, the parts are removed, inspected many ways in the metrology lab including CMM and other analysis

sometimes, the axle is put on a vehicle and ran through a battery of on the vehicle testing.

They don't just see if the axle housing is bent and throw it away. These tests cost hundreds of thousands of dollars by the time everything is complete.

and American Axle is a Tier 1 automotive parts manufacturer for your information.

 

[drewactual]

Watch out Big Brian, he'll get you on the ground and beat you with experience..... an asset all idiots possess.

 

[Bedrck47]

This guy is an idiot... seriously...
.

SHAME ON YOU
YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH

 

[Big Brian]

just trying to explain the wonderful world of automotive development. The general public has no idea what all goes into producing an automobile

...I have stories that would fill this board lol

and for the record this testing I was referring to is done at the American Axle Research and Development Center in Rochester Hills, Mi.

 

[and0r]

this "supposed" test is not just to test the housing. It is to test the axle assembly as a whole. After the test, the parts are removed, inspected many ways in the metrology lab including CMM and other analysis

Absolutely irrelevant.
Where exactly it was focused is irrelevant here.

sometimes, the axle is put on a vehicle and ran through a battery of on the vehicle testing.

Yes, for how long? Lets not pretend this is anything significant either please.

They don't just see if the axle housing is bent and throw it away. These tests cost hundreds of thousands of dollars by the time everything is complete.

By gosh you are full of excuses.

 

[Big Brian]

I am not responding to this nonsense

I am trying to explain to you how vehicle component testing is done

here is a term for you to look up, maybe you will learn something

DVP&R

 

[drewactual]

This clown is trolling... I hope that's the case, anyway. Otherwise it lends clear and present evidence of our doom as a species.

 

[Bedrck47]

So, my Hayne's manual made no comment about where to use a floor-jack to raise the rear end for a brake change, so I raised it from the rear pumpkin.

Now I checked the owner's manual and it says never to do that.

Seriously? That's the most convenient place to jack up the rear by 1000%. The owner's manual actually suggests to jack up a rear axle side. I'm surprised one rear axle tube is that strong to handle most of the weight of the back half of the truck! Plus, that seems like a safety concern to jack up one side, place a jack-stand, let down and then jack up the other side (with all the tilted weight on one jack-stand) until the other jack stand can be put under the new side.

What's the concern with the rear pumpkin? Would a piece of plywood between the jack and rear pumpkin resolve any concerns about jacking under the rear pumpkin? Or, is the pumpkin so weak that it really shouldn't support the weight of the rear of the truck?

First off the HAYNE'S manual is a POS and not a Ford manual The Ford Owners manual that you are referring to is giving directions about changing a rear tire NOT LIFTING THE WHOLE REAR END. That information was in the ROADSIDE EMERGENCY SECTION.

 

[and0r]

First off the HAYNE'S manual is a POS and not a Ford manual The Ford Owners manual that you are referring to is giving directions about changing a rear tire NOT LIFTING THE WHOLE REAR END. That information was in the ROADSIDE EMERGENCY SECTION.

Actually, the section which cautions against jacking the rear diff is different, although included along with safety precautions. It clearly shows a floor jack being used and specifically warns against this by picture. Ford has chosen to specifically depict a floor jack here and not the emergency jack. This was not by accident.

 

[Bedrck47]

Are you really that dumb That you can't understand that the section (ROADSIDE EMERGENCIES) was on dealing with changing a tire

Doesn't matter what jack was used in the picture Ford states not to jack the rear differential. Doesn't take an expert to understand that.

 

[Big Brian]

my country tis of thee...
sweet land of liberty...

 

[and0r]

may i ask how old you dudes are?
im only 19 btw
and you're acting like 8th graders

pretty low

 

[Bedrck47]

You may be correct that you are ONLY 19 But your acting that you are an EXPERT compared to all of the experience that has been offered to you Maybe its time that you get away from your better than those that know more than you GO back and read what you posted in the past

"I kind of need this info as a crutch due to my inexperience"

Time to remember this and keep your mouth shut and listen to those that know more than you and maybe JUST MAYBE you will learn something.

BUT THEN TO SHOW JUST HOW MUCH BS YOU ARE LOOK TO YOUR PROFILE WHERE IT SHOWS Jan 1, 1982 (Age: 35) NOW SAYING YOUR 19 when your profile says 35 ONE OF THOSE IS A LIE and that about sums you up.

 

[and0r]

You may be correct that you are ONLY 19 But your acting that you are an EXPERT compared to all of the experience that has been offered to you Maybe its time that you get away from your better than those that know more than you GO back and read what you posted in the past

"I kind of need this info as a crutch due to my inexperience"

Time to remember this and keep your mouth shut and listen to those that know more than you and maybe JUST MAYBE you will learn something.

BUT THEN TO SHOW JUST HOW MUCH BS YOU ARE LOOK TO YOUR PROFILE WHERE IT SHOWS Jan 1, 1982 (Age: 35) NOW SAYING YOUR 19 when your profile says 35 ONE OF THOSE IS A LIE and that about sums you up.

literally don't even read your posts. i do see the wall of text, but you simply must understand why your posts are not even worth reading