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[NASCAR Mike]

Get an oil catch can from JMS. It will capture all of the oil vapor from your valve covers before it deposits it on your intake valves. Since the 3.5 Ecoboost uses direct injection, the fuel injector does not wash the intake valves with gasoline keeping them somewhat clean like a plenum injector does. When the oil vapors hit the hot intake valve it burns or cokes on. This coking will eventually cause problems.

 

[jeff kushner]

Get an oil catch can from JMS. It will capture all of the oil vapor from your valve covers before it deposits it on your intake valves. Since the 3.5 Ecoboost uses direct injection, the fuel injector does not wash the intake valves with gasoline keeping them somewhat clean like a plenum injector does. When the oil vapors hit the hot intake valve it burns or cokes on. This coking will eventually cause problems.

For those of you not sure if what Mike is saying can be true....as someone who has built more engines than I've blown up.....yes, it certainly can be with the 1st gen Ecoboost.

The new 2nd gen has an additional Fuel injector to help with this issue among others from what I've read.

jeff

 

[07xln]

As was said before in the catch can thread. If you plan on keeping your Expedition and running it into the ground with a couple hundred thousand miles then a catch can is probably a good idea. If you plan on getting rid of it in a few years then its probably not needed. Also nobody knows for sure how the dealer will react to having one if you need to go in for a warranty related service. Either way there is definitely not a negative to having one

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

As was said before in the catch can thread. If you plan on keeping your Expedition and running it into the ground with a couple hundred thousand miles then a catch can is probably a good idea. If you plan on getting rid of it in a few years then its probably not needed. Also nobody knows for sure how the dealer will react to having one if you need to go in for a warranty related service. Either way there is definitely not a negative to having one

My service writer said that he thought it would void the warranty because it was messing with the lubrication system. However, he gave me the contact information for the Ford Performance Tech Line 800-367-3788 from 8:30 - 5 Eastern time. He said they might be able to provide an authoritative answer. I have not yet taken the time to call them but if anybody here wants to call them and report back that would be great. I just haven't had the time and I'm not sure I have the right info to not sound like I don't know what I'm talking about.

 

[jdeshong]

Hello everyone. We recently purchased a 2016 Expedition 2WD with 31K miles. This is my first ecoboost. I have searched for major issues with these trucks and didn't find too many. That's what led me to make the purchase. Is there anything I should be looking for or any major issues with these trucks that need immediate attention. Ours seems to be in great shape, I just wanted input on major problems to keep an eye out for. Thanks!

I would look at the suspension for leaks before the warranty runs out. I have a 2015 and both rears were leaking with only 42k. Im at 51k now with no warranty and noticed my front left strut is oily around the bottom but not dripping yet and makes a bottoming out clunk when going over a speed bump. The ford shocks & struts are garbage. Love everything else though.

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[NASCAR Mike]

For those of you not sure if what Mike is saying can be true....as someone who has built more engines than I've blown up.....yes, it certainly can be with the 1st gen Ecoboost.

The new 2nd gen has an additional Fuel injector to help with this issue among others from what I've read.

jeff

1st generation meaning up to 2017 models. 2nd generation is the 2018 models.

 

[jeff kushner]

1st generation meaning up to 2017 models. 2nd generation is the 2018 models.

Correct Mike and from what I've read and talked about with other builders is that the more important issue is that same temperature derived "coking" occurring on the turbo blade tips causing imbalance over the long term thereby in some extreme cases of lowering the overall boost capacity but no one has been showing any real proof....just lots of discussion but like every "preventative" mod, there will always be promoters and detractors. I'm on the fence the can but only because I've got close to 200K on a supercharged engine and it never received the can nor do it's valves look burnt or coked. Static compression is still w/i 1 & 4PSI of stock specs.....says that changing that Mobil 1 0-40W oil often has done some good?

jeff

 

[NASCAR Mike]

says that changing that Mobil 1 0-40W oil often has done some good?

jeff

Synthetic oil is the only way to keep an engine well running and sludge free. It has a much higher operating temperature than dino oil and doesn't coke nearly as much.

 

[jeff kushner]

Synthetic oil is the only way to keep an engine well running and sludge free. It has a much higher operating temperature than dino oil and doesn't coke nearly as much.

Yea buddy! I call it "cheap insurance" since the delta between dino and good synth per oil change is only is about 12 bucks x 4 times a year= 50 bucks a year...like I said, cheap insurance!

 

[Allen Miller]

'80 Olds diesel that gobbled two engines in 100,000 miles and a '70 Chrysler that lost an internal oil pump just out of warranty.

Lol, neither of those were your fault, except that you made poor selections of automobile.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Yea buddy! I call it "cheap insurance" since the delta between dino and good synth per oil change is only is about 12 bucks x 4 times a year= 50 bucks a year...like I said, cheap insurance!

Yeah what Mike said and change it often.

 

[rjdelp7]

I did some research on these. Goggle Eco Boost Catch can. Damp weather loss of power. White smoke on start up. Timing chain rattle(esp on start up). Premium fuel recommended for towing and max engine output. Synthetic oil and religious maintenance. A co- worker had a turbo fail and later, massive oil leak, under 2 years old. It was in shop for a month.

 

[sixsix]

The ONLY bit of info you might want to keep dear to your truck's heart is to try not to put it away right after a really hard run. Since the turbo's use the same oil as the engine, taking a little time to allow it to cool down before shutting it off and cutting off the supply of cooling oil. This is true on any engine after a hard run(so cams and cyl walls don't flash off causing "dry starts") but a little more critical with the turbo's because they run at such high temps normally.

Good luck and congratulations....very nice....'16 w/ <30K!!

jeff

The turbos are also water cooled so this is not really an issue.

Like another poster said, check your struts for leakage. I just got my front 2 replaced under warranty. They started leaking somewhere around the 15000 mile mark.


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[JExpedition07]

I did some research on these. Goggle Eco Boost Catch can. Damp weather loss of power. White smoke on start up. Timing chain rattle(esp on start up). Premium fuel recommended for towing and max engine output. Synthetic oil and religious maintenance. A co- worker had a turbo fail and later, massive oil leak, under 2 years old. It was in shop for a month.

Was that on the 2.7? Those things are junk. So many instances of motors blowing up at the end of warranty. they are just too small for SUVs and trucks. The 3.5 ecoboost has a way better track of reliability. The only reason the 2.7 sells good is ford pushes that on fleet customers. If i considered an ecoboost the 2.7 wouldn’t even be on the table they are not a good powertrain, it would have to be a 3.5. Not to mention the 2.7 gets that nasty smoker rasp on startup.

 

[redphone107]

Chill out guys, he was replying to a former poster asking him if it was still under warranty. The poster's handle begins with "1997". Not rocket science

Sorry fellas. I've been out of the loop. Yes. I was replying to the poster. LOL. That's a very interesting read about the catch cans. I will have to dive into that a little further. This is my first ecoboost and so far I love it. I will definitely be switching to full synthetic at the next oil change. I am a firm believer in synthetics even for my diesel. I appreciate all the advice. I was at thanksgiving yesterday with all my cousins with tahoes and suburbans. It was a hoot. They couldn't believe the bells and whistles and when I told them all the price, they about fell out (as compared to similar GM products) HAHAHA I think I'm liking this Ford thing.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Sorry fellas. I've been out of the loop. Yes. I was replying to the poster. LOL. That's a very interesting read about the catch cans. I will have to dive into that a little further. This is my first ecoboost and so far I love it. I will definitely be switching to full synthetic at the next oil change. I am a firm believer in synthetics even for my diesel. I appreciate all the advice. I was at thanksgiving yesterday with all my cousins with tahoes and suburbans. It was a hoot. They couldn't believe the bells and whistles and when I told them all the price, they about fell out (as compared to similar GM products) HAHAHA I think I'm liking this Ford thing.

Expeditions are definitely nice trucks.

 

[chuck s]

I'm seeing catch cans for the 2017 F150 3.5L but not the 2017 Expedition. Link?

-- Chuck

 

[JExpedition07]

Sorry fellas. I've been out of the loop. Yes. I was replying to the poster. LOL. That's a very interesting read about the catch cans. I will have to dive into that a little further. This is my first ecoboost and so far I love it. I will definitely be switching to full synthetic at the next oil change. I am a firm believer in synthetics even for my diesel. I appreciate all the advice. I was at thanksgiving yesterday with all my cousins with tahoes and suburbans. It was a hoot. They couldn't believe the bells and whistles and when I told them all the price, they about fell out (as compared to similar GM products) HAHAHA I think I'm liking this Ford thing.

It used to be even more so. Now new fords are generally more than GM so the bang for your buck factor is starting to reverse.

 

[chuck s]

I don't think GM has an SUV that can tow 9200 pounds.

-- Chuck