EXPY Tunes

[Blackscreen67]

Quit wolfeing up worthless ramble and read.

https://www.f150forum.com/f118/lower-gear-torque-management-384626/

 

[Mike Wolfe]

Quit wolfeing up worthless ramble and read.

https://www.f150forum.com/f118/lower-gear-torque-management-384626/

Thanks
just supports what I have been saying all along
THey are closing the throttle even though the accelerator pedal is on the floor for "TORQUE MANAGEMENT"
Just what I have been refering to

Have a good evening all

 

[Blackscreen67]

Thanks
just supports what I have been saying all along
THey are closing the throttle even though the accelerator pedal is on the floor for "TORQUE MANAGEMENT"
Just what I have been refering to

Have a good evening all

*****! Dude you pat yourself on the back like a pro. It's an engineer thing I guess. The point was the defuel is widely known about and you stated there was no such thing taking place.

The whole time I never said you were wrong regarding need for sensors to talk.

The tuning of defueling parameters is known as torque management when at WOT. The stock tuning at WOT from first delays power off idle.

Your 5* tune shuts it off completely.

Now back to 5*. With the stock internals of the F150 and expy only being rated by for for 570ftlbs, what is they projected trans life expectancy with the added power. Sure the tweak shift points, that won't change the torque rating. Shafts start breaking and gears start slipping.

 

[Mike Wolfe]

Defueling is a misnomer
No calibrator in their right mind would reduce amount of fuel without reducing the amount of boost & throttle opening at the same time (along with several other parameters)
So therefore I do not know who coined the term "DEFUELING"
It is a misnomer when it comes to spark ignited engines

Well I now have 2 vehicles with the 10 spd
Both have been recalibrated
Not the least bit worried about the transmission
The EXPY with the the 5 star the F150 with Hypertech
The previous 4 vehicles I have owned
2011 F150 3.5L (USED SCT)
2013 Ford Flex 3.5L Eco Boost (Used Livernois)
2013 Ford Taurus SHO with PP (Used Livernois)
2016 Ford Explorer Sport (Used Livernois)

Never had an issue with any of them
Did not drag race with them
Used the 2011 F150 to tow a very heavy tandem axle trailer
Typically weighed about 12k lbs
Made several trips between our home in Iowa & Home in Arizona
do not remember the torque ratings on the 6 speed trans in it
But it would easily pull the trailer & did not even go WOT to pull it through the mountains
I merely enjoyed the vastly improved throttle response & overall improvement in driveability
So again i am not the least bit worried about durability

Not sure why you are so negative about eco boost vehicles
Apparently you think only diesels are suitable for vehicles
while I think Diesels have they place for HD applications, I am not interested in Diesels for my needs

 

[jeff kushner]

Hey Mike.....how did you like Livernois for your earlier 3.5(s)? Both their tune and dealing with them??

jeff

 

[Mike Wolfe]

Hey Mike.....how did you like Livernois for your earlier 3.5(s)? Both their tune and dealing with them??

jeff

Had nothing but good things to say about Livernois
Calibrations always worked very well
Did not need to contact them very much
Just asked a few questions about using the 3 bar map on my Taurus, Flex & Explorer
Had upgraded software to work with 3 bar map ready for download within one day of my request
Could recommend them based on my experience
Have you had a less favorable experience with them?

 

[jeff kushner]

Thanks for your candid opinion. I have not personally dealt with them but am very aware of their stellar reputation, that's why I asked. I wanted to ask someone whose opinion I respected, their opinion of them.

I've tuned my car years ago to new parameters when I oversized the crank sheave to speed up the supercharger when it was a matter of "your guy" being on the phone with Mercedes guy in Germany(doing it on the side), telling him the mods, translating then d/l'ing it to his laptop and loading it up. I didn't know how it was to deal with a large firm who does mass tunes.

Thanks,

jeff

 

[Blackscreen67]

Defueling is a misnomer
No calibrator in their right mind would reduce amount of fuel without reducing the amount of boost & throttle opening at the same time (along with several other parameters)
So therefore I do not know who coined the term "DEFUELING"
It is a misnomer when it comes to spark ignited engines

Well I now have 2 vehicles with the 10 spd
Both have been recalibrated
Not the least bit worried about the transmission
The EXPY with the the 5 star the F150 with Hypertech
The previous 4 vehicles I have owned
2011 F150 3.5L (USED SCT)
2013 Ford Flex 3.5L Eco Boost (Used Livernois)
2013 Ford Taurus SHO with PP (Used Livernois)
2016 Ford Explorer Sport (Used Livernois)

Never had an issue with any of them
Did not drag race with them
Used the 2011 F150 to tow a very heavy tandem axle trailer
Typically weighed about 12k lbs
Made several trips between our home in Iowa & Home in Arizona
do not remember the torque ratings on the 6 speed trans in it
But it would easily pull the trailer & did not even go WOT to pull it through the mountains
I merely enjoyed the vastly improved throttle response & overall improvement in driveability
So again i am not the least bit worried about durability

Not sure why you are so negative about eco boost vehicles
Apparently you think only diesels are suitable for vehicles
while I think Diesels have they place for HD applications, I am not interested in Diesels for my needs

You can call it mashed potatoes if you please. The reality is when you cut throttle and air you're "defueling" as there's less fuel commanded, yet the engine still will continue to climb in rpm.

This is built into the tuning as a failsafe measure to limit down low torque input, specifically 1st and 2nd being most notable.

Not sure where you get the notion that I bashed ecoboost motors as that never was done. There you go again though bringing up diesel and nobody is even talking about them.

If we were truly honest, you're just hypersensitive to the fact I pointed out your infatuation with the phrase "I'm an engineer". All your attempt to bicker started after I playfully highlighted that little fact.

 

[edizzle]

OMG please stop!!!!!

 

[Blackscreen67]

OMG please stop!!!!!

Yes, please have Wolfe understand he needs to stop thinking he knows half of what he thinks he does all because he plugs in a preprogrammed cookie cutter tune from XYZ manufacturer.

He might actually understand if he wasn't so focused on typing..... "I'm an engineer".

I for sure won't just watch someone cast idiotic shade based on warrantless ignorance towards the knowledge and experiences of other. Not to mention the continued obliviousness of documented limitation Ford themselves have acknowledged.

I'm feeling feisty this am!

 

[aggiegrad05]

I think y'all need to realize you have reached the point at which you're not going to convince each other. I am sorry you have not won the Internet Prize today for convincing some random stranger that you're smarter than they are, but maybe try again on another topic some other time.

 

[Mike Wolfe]

Done
will never post on this forum again
Had hoped this would just be a exchange of experiences with tunes on your EXPY's
Twice now my threads have been hijacked by someone who thinks he is a legend in his own mind
Also refuses to accept the true facts regarding torque management
If anyone wants to share your tuning experience with or ask me questions about mine please contact me privately
Not interested in getting beat up by someone that does not know what he is talking about
Thanks for ruining this for everybody *******!!!

 

[jeff kushner]

[QUOTE="Blackscreen67,

I for sure won't just watch someone cast idiotic shade based on warrantless ignorance towards the knowledge and experiences of other. Not to mention the continued obliviousness of documented limitation Ford themselves have acknowledged.

I'm feeling feisty this am![/QUOTE]

You DO realize that you've only been here a TWO months yet you feel so important that you comment as often as the guy you trash....has in over 15 months? Far be it from me to judge...but you're coming off as a dick when you don't need to.


BTW- If you are going to attempt to impress us with your vocabulary, you might want to check your grammar.

Just sayin.....

jeff

 

[mquick5]

Popcorn is all gone.

So back on topic, those of you with tunes, do you have issues connecting to Forscan? I tried using the software on my Mustang, and it wouldn't connect. I forget the exact error message, asking for pcm # or something.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk

 

[5150 pops]

All I know is @jeff kushner could do us all a solid, and zoom in on those cutoff jeans, don't nobody care about her shirt!

 

[Mike Wolfe]

Found this on the 5 star site
https://5startuning.com/fastest-2018-f150-3-5l-ecoboost-last-friday/
F150 stock ecoboost running the 12's with E50

 

[Blackscreen67]

Done
will never post on this forum again
Had hoped this would just be a exchange of experiences with tunes on your EXPY's
Twice now my threads have been hijacked by someone who thinks he is a legend in his own mind
Also refuses to accept the true facts regarding torque management
If anyone wants to share your tuning experience with or ask me questions about mine please contact me privately
Not interested in getting beat up by someone that does not know what he is talking about
Thanks for ruining this for everybody *******!!!

There ya go AGAIN. Go reread.... **** otherwise. Your tripping on your effort to keep feeling like your the smart kid in class. Time to catch up with the times my good sir. You've failed on every point you've attempted to make, and at this point I'm done wasting my time on you.

Continue on with your canned tuning discussion.

How bout this..... does Ford rate the 10R80 in front or NM? Hurry now go google it.

[QUOTE="jeff kushner, post: 322870, member: 49671"][QUOTE="Blackscreen67,

I for sure won't just watch someone cast idiotic shade based on warrantless ignorance towards the knowledge and experiences of other. Not to mention the continued obliviousness of documented limitation Ford themselves have acknowledged.

I'm feeling feisty this am![/QUOTE]

You DO realize that you've only been here a TWO months yet you feel so important that you comment as often as the guy you trash....has in over 15 months? Far be it from me to judge...but you're coming off as a dick when you don't need to.


BTW- If you are going to attempt to impress us with your vocabulary, you might want to check your grammar.

Just sayin.....

jeff[/QUOTE]

Ok and you're in the 2018 section so it's a safe reasonable conclusion to state your posts are worthless here aswell?! Yes? No?

By me being a dick you refer to me speaking in factual data correct? Then yes, a proud dick I am. On the other hand you have Mr. "I'm an engineer" who has made the feeble personal insults, lol at the standards you keep there Kushner. Yet take note, not once did I even insult someone. Funny how that works right?!

Who are you to judge though? When your posts are nothing more than dribble. Such as a reference to a time on a forum. Freaking hilarious.

Forum people that look at time on a board as a stature of recognition is the funniest shit I've ever seen.

Tell you what. Go ahead and just sit back try and catch up instead of worrying about grammar in a would filled with acronyms and abbreviations.

 

[Blackscreen67]

Found this on the 5 star site
https://5startuning.com/fastest-2018-f150-3-5l-ecoboost-last-friday/
F150 stock ecoboost running the 12's with E50

Since I'm feeling like I want to be extra ******* and all, here's your link to the dyno data for the tunes used.

5startuning.com/now-release

 

[Mike Wolfe]

Ok
at the risk of having Blackscreen send a hit man up here to get me I have to respond
Shows what an ethanol based high octane fuel can do
Need to check into it but I may order the E50 or E30 tune from 5 star
Apparently the fuel system has enough capacity to support that much ethanol

WHOHOO

Derive has reached an agreement with the EPA to continue offering it's products along with many of it's customers
From the 5 star site
https://5startuning.com/derive-systems-enters-agreement-with-epa-to-enhance-industry-practices/

 

[Mike Wolfe]

for those concerned with durability issues, 5 star now offers extended warranties if you use their calibrations
https://5startuning.com/product-cat...18-f150-3-5l-v6-ecoboost-powertrain-warranty/