1.5 leveling kit and 2/3 lift question

[Dan Berry]

hey guys, just picked up a 2019 expedition platinum. Readylift shows their 1.5 level will fit on the front of all Expeditions. Has anyone put just the 1.5 front lift on? Any pictures?
I am concerned it will have the Cali lean....

On the Readylift 2/3 lift, can someone give me the measurement from the ground to the top of the roof rack rail?

I have a shorter garage and I want to be able to fit in it. Thanks for the help!

 

[16plati]

@Dan Berry
As for your leveling kit, I personally think you’ll hate the look. Take a look at these 3rd gens, not a very aesthetically pleasing look

As for the Readylift, if nobody answers try looking up the 2019 platinum dimensions sheets and add 2-3”, plus any other height gained from bigger tires. If you keep stock size tires, you probably won’t like that look either.

 

[Dan Berry]

That looks not so good.....

I am running 275/60r20 of my f150 now just want a little more clearance for the tires, but still want to fit in the garage. If anyone has 33 or 35 with the 2/3 lift that can give me a measurement from the ground to the cargo rail on the top that would be appreciated. I did back into the math from the stock height + the lift and tires but I would like confirmation.


DB

 

[95cobby]

I’ll get a measurement of ours tomorrow. I have the 3/2 ReadyLIFT with 295/65r20s and it fits just fine in a 7’ garage door opening.


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[Tom T]

@Dan Berry what does not look good? I like your ride. Which wheels do you have?
@95cobby any pics of your ride? which wheels? any clearance issues? you have true 35s....;-)

 

[Black]

If you want a small lift skip the ReadyLift and get the Bilstein 5100s. They are adjustable height and the max for the 2019s is 1.6” in the front and 1.5” in the rear.
https://www.expeditionforum.com/thr...ein-is-now-making-5100s-for-the-15-19s.39465/

Perfect for those wanting a mild lift and leveling struts are a better choice than spacers.

 

[16plati]

@Dan Berry what does not look good? I like your ride. Which wheels do you have?
@95cobby any pics of your ride? which wheels? any clearance issues? you have true 35s....;-)

He’s probably referring to ppl lifting g just the front of the trucks

 

[julijn]

hey guys, just picked up a 2019 expedition platinum. Readylift shows their 1.5 level will fit on the front of all Expeditions. Has anyone put just the 1.5 front lift on? Any pictures?
I am concerned it will have the Cali lean....

On the Readylift 2/3 lift, can someone give me the measurement from the ground to the top of the roof rack rail?

I have a shorter garage and I want to be able to fit in it. Thanks for the help!

just be aware that you have the ccd suspention which makes it harder to do the readylift and if you put in blistins youll have to rip out that expensive suspension you paid extra for...

 

[MATT0404]

If you want a small lift skip the ReadyLift and get the Bilstein 5100s. They are adjustable height and the max for the 2019s is 1.6” in the front and 1.5” in the rear.
https://www.expeditionforum.com/thr...ein-is-now-making-5100s-for-the-15-19s.39465/

Perfect for those wanting a mild lift and leveling struts are a better choice than spacers.

These are tempting. Wonder how ride quality is compared to stock and stock+spacers. Guess that's the $524 question.

 

[95cobby]

It’s about 79.5” measuring at the front portion of the roof rails. I don’t have any decent pics yet as I just put it on last night. I have already purchased the Bilstein 5100 set except with F150 fronts. Factory shocks in the front are leaking and I certainly won’t be going to the dealer for that, non ccd here.




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[16plati]

These are tempting. Wonder how ride quality is compared to stock and stock+spacers. Guess that's the $524 question.

It’s slightly stiffer with the lift and 35s. Still very comfy at highway speeds

 

[Black]

These are tempting. Wonder how ride quality is compared to stock and stock+spacers. Guess that's the $524 question.

From a design and engineering standpoint leveling struts like the 5100s are far superior to a strut spacer set up.

Your ride will be worlds better with the Bilsteins vs factory struts with a spacer.
5100s vs Bilstein 4600 paired with a spacer you will likely not notice the difference on these trucks.

Granted I have a 16 so you are in a bit of a different ball game than me and I think someone mentioned you having CCD so that adds even more difficulty to your scenario.
I have 5100s from an F150 up front for 2” of lift and the 4600s with a 2” Readylift Spacer in the rear. I absolutely love the stance, ride quality, braking improvement, and Offroad capability I gained. I have 33.5x11.5 tires and have plenty of clearance with zero need for trimming.

I wanted 2” of lift front and back.
If the 5100s gave a 2” option to the rear I would not be using spacers.
As soon as someone gives us a full coilover package I’ll be going that route so I can loose the spacers.

 

[EricExpedition]

It’s about 79.5” measuring at the front portion of the roof rails. I don’t have any decent pics yet as I just put it on last night. I have already purchased the Bilstein 5100 set except with F150 fronts. Factory shocks in the front are leaking and I certainly won’t be going to the dealer for that, non ccd here.




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Looks awesome!! So this is with the ReadyLift 3/2? Where did you order the Bilstein 5100s from? What do you mean F150 fronts? Are you setting the 5100s at stock height with the spacers or totally replacing the spacers?

Sorry for all the questions, but I have Bilstein 5100s on my F150 and I'm excited this is an option for our Expeditions now. I got mine several years ago from AJUSA and they were considerably cheaper -- around $300 -- but I don't see the Expedition ones on their website yet.

 

[EricExpedition]

These are tempting. Wonder how ride quality is compared to stock and stock+spacers. Guess that's the $524 question.

 

[95cobby]

Looks awesome!! So this is with the ReadyLift 3/2? Where did you order the Bilstein 5100s from? What do you mean F150 fronts? Are you setting the 5100s at stock height with the spacers or totally replacing the spacers?

Sorry for all the questions, but I have Bilstein 5100s on my F150 and I'm excited this is an option for our Expeditions now. I got mine several years ago from AJUSA and they were considerably cheaper -- around $300 -- but I don't see the Expedition ones on their website yet.

That's with the 3/2 ReadyLift only. They will be coming back out once the shocks get here. I went with the F150 fronts as they provide more lift in the front than the ones that Bilstein lists on their site for the Expedition and my wheels/tires would not clear with the ones specifically for the Expy. I'm thinking I will have the rears set at the max 1.5" (possibly with a 1/4" or so shim to prevent cali lean) and the fronts either at the 2" or 3" setting. I ordered the 5100s for the Expy from shockwarehouse.. and the F150 fronts from the cheapest place I could find online, several places selling them.

 

[EricExpedition]

From a design and engineering standpoint leveling struts like the 5100s are far superior to a strut spacer set up.

Your ride will be worlds better with the Bilsteins vs factory struts with a spacer.
5100s vs Bilstein 4600 paired with a spacer you will likely not notice the difference on these trucks.

Granted I have a 16 so you are in a bit of a different ball game than me and I think someone mentioned you having CCD so that adds even more difficulty to your scenario.
I have 5100s from an F150 up front for 2” of lift and the 4600s with a 2” Readylift Spacer in the rear. I absolutely love the stance, ride quality, braking improvement, and Offroad capability I gained. I have 33.5x11.5 tires and have plenty of clearance with zero need for trimming.

I wanted 2” of lift front and back.
If the 5100s gave a 2” option to the rear I would not be using spacers.
As soon as someone gives us a full coilover package I’ll be going that route so I can loose the spacers.

I've been waiting to see if the 2.5" kit allegedly ICON was suppose to be coming out with is ever going to happen.

http://www.trucktrend.com/features/1809-2018-ford-expedition-family-adventure

 

[EricExpedition]

That's with the 3/2 ReadyLift only. They will be coming back out once the shocks get here. I went with the F150 fronts as they provide more lift in the front than the ones that Bilstein lists on their site for the Expedition and my wheels/tires would not clear with the ones specifically for the Expy. I'm thinking I will have the rears set at the max 1.5" (possibly with a 1/4" or so shim to prevent cali lean) and the fronts either at the 2" or 3" setting. I ordered the 5100s for the Expy from shockwarehouse.. and the F150 fronts from the cheapest place I could find online, several places selling them.

Is the Bilstein F150 version a direct bolt-on for the Expedition? You won't have to modify? I would be interested if FOX had anything if that were the case. It's funny how on our FX4's they don't even come with Rancho shocks. But I think it was just a sticker on the F-Series the past few years anyway. Haha.

 

[95cobby]

Is the Bilstein F150 version a direct bolt-on for the Expedition? You won't have to modify? I would be interested if FOX had anything if that were the case. It's funny how on our FX4's they don't even come with Rancho shocks. But I think it was just a sticker on the F-Series the past few years anyway. Haha.

So far from my research yes, but don’t hold me to that. I’ll find out soon enough.. I do know there’s a few in here that have already done it as well. The thing with the fox coilovers is yea they prolly fit but then what ya gonna do about the rear? I thought about that but without having a matching rear option I wouldn't want to go that route yet.


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[95cobby]

Still dirty but here’s a side pic.




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[Black]

Here is a video that does an great job demonstrating my a leveling strut such as the 5100 is superior in design to a strut spacer.

I can only speak to the 2015-2017 models as that is what I have and am running 5100s from the F150. They are a direct bolt on. Any F150 front strut or coilover assembly will bolt right in with no issues.
The issue that comes into play is the F150s have a different spring rate than the Expedition. My initial install I set it to the highest perch mount (spec’d at 2” of lift for the F150). I gained 4” of lift which is way too much lift for these rigs. So I had to pull it off and do it again. Taking a wild guess and erring on the side of caution I chose the 2nd spring perch height (spec’d at .79” of lift for the F150). I gained 2” of lift which is exactly where I wanted to be and am very happy with my setup.

That being said since the 15-19s share a part number with the new Bilstein 5100s spec’d for the Expedition though the ride height possibilities are different tells me that the F150 5100s will bolt up just fine. The question is what notch will give what ride height and there is no way to really figure that out until some tries it out with an 18 or 19 and learns the hard way like I did or gets lucky on the first try.

As for running a spacer on a 5100 at the stock ride height setting.
You can’t safely run a spacer on top of a 5100. The 5100 body and shaft are not the same length as the factory shock. Even though there is a factory ride height setting the spring perch ring is not the same height as factory and the body and shaft being longer adding a spacer to the top will likely bend your shaft. Bilstein states specifically not to run a spacer on 5100s.
Granted when I did my setup there were no 5100s for the rear of the Expedition so I have 4600s with a 2” spacer. 5100s and 4600s of corresponding models are valved identically. The body and shaft of the 5100s are just longer to accommodate the lift properly while the 4600 is the same as OEM.