1st Oil Change (surprise - metal drain plug)

[bushpilot]

I am surprised to discover that the drain plug on our '20 Max is metal/threaded.
I expected a plastic quarter turn (was all ready to replace it w/ a Ronin Drain Plug)!

Ill be ordering a Fomoto F137 quick change oil valve!

 

[BFD350]

I think it was part way through the 18 model year when Ford switched to metal plugs instead of the yellow plastic. I have a 18 that I bought at the end of that calendar year and it’s metal. Well...it was. I too opted for the Fumoto. I love those things. It’s now standard issue on my vehicles, I have it on my 16 F-350.

Curious, do you use a guard for the lever? I started with the plastic Fumoto guard but was a little paranoid so I use a spring hose clamp as suggested by Fumoto.


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[scottdm]

Oil drain valves are a nice thing especially when it eliminates the needs to remove skid plates to change oil. I have used both Fumoto and Stahlbus and prefer the Stahlbus version since it has a nice threaded cap that keeps the dirt out of the hose fitting between oil changes. Fumoto offers a little rubber nipple to cover the hose fitting, but I discovered that after the engine/oil pan heats up, the rubber nipple quickly loosens and falls off.

http://www.stahlbus.com/products/en/oil-drain-valve/

 

[lobsenza]

How does this eliminate the need to remove the skid plate? You have to get to the drain plug area to connect the hose, don't you?

 

[scottdm]

How does this eliminate the need to remove the skid plate? You have to get to the drain plug area to connect the hose, don't you?

I removed the stock felt shield and installed the Raptor transmission skid plate on my Expy and it has a small access hole so I can connect the drain hose to the Stahlbus drain valve without removing the entire skid plate. Without the drain valve and hose, oil would certainly end up on top of the skid plate. (pics before I installed drain valve)

 

[bushpilot]

I think it was part way through the 18 model year when Ford switched to metal plugs instead of the yellow plastic. I have a 18 that I bought at the end of that calendar year and it’s metal. Well...it was. I too opted for the Fumoto. I love those things. It’s now standard issue on my vehicles, I have it on my 16 F-350.

Curious, do you use a guard for the lever? I started with the plastic Fumoto guard but was a little paranoid so I use a spring hose clamp as suggested by Fumoto.


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I've been using fomoto valves since the mid 90s....best thing I EVER did on my wife Miata (that car is a royal pia when it comes to oil changes)....I have one on our '12 wrangler which as a 1/4" steel skid plate on it...that one uses a nipple and hose.

I really started taking advantage of these valves when I bought our 14 quart F350 in 2004 (and in 2017).
I even have one on our 13L diesel motor coach....that motor has 14 GALLONS in its oil pan.

I used fomoto's before they had a lock/rings and I never used the (new) lock guard on the lever until I installed one on our 2017 F350.
I installed a spring/hose clamp on our motor coach drain valve...but ive NEVER had any of these valves open other than when I meant to open them.

 

[utmeep]

I removed the stock felt shield and installed the Raptor transmission skid plate on my Expy and it has a small access hole so I can connect the drain hose to the Stahlbus drain valve without removing the entire skid plate. Without the drain valve and hose, oil would certainly end up on top of the skid plate. (pics before I installed drain valve)

Do you have a part number for the skid plate?

I think it's this one; https://www.getoemparts.com/oem-par...fKUsmEyl0KrygGWKWBAKYvGYNEmrPCmQaAq2zEALw_wcB

 

[lbv150]

I took the felt off on the '16, trans seems to run cooler and easier oil changes.

 

[rjdelp7]

My Craftsmans zero turn tractor, came with a piece of tube. It attaches to the oil drain, that is a twist to open valve. No drips and oil pours right into the pan. If Briggs and Stratton can do this, why not Ford?

 

[scottdm]

Do you have a part number for the skid plate?

I think it's this one; https://www.getoemparts.com/oem-par...fKUsmEyl0KrygGWKWBAKYvGYNEmrPCmQaAq2zEALw_wcB

See the attached thread on installing skid plates on the 4th Gen Expy. Part numbers and pricing are included.

https://www.expeditionforum.com/threads/adding-skid-plates-to-2018-limited-with-tow-package.38146/

 

[Wally Rayban]

After a routine oil change at the Ford dealer, my 18 Expo MAX started leaking from the plastic quarter turn. Took it back a few days later and they switched it out with a new one for free because it wasn't leaking prior to the oil change. They told me it's common to see them leak because the o-ring goes bad and they're only $9 for the part. If they know it's problematic, I wonder why they never switched me to the metal plug.

 

[BFD350]

I think (big disclaimer there) that the oil pan itself is different. At a minimum is think the plastic is a quarter turn and metal has standard threads so I don’t believe they’re interchangeable.

Had I received an Expedition with a plastic plug I probably would just replace it at every oil change.


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