Refreshed Ford Expedition?

[dlcorbett]

https://fordauthority.com/2020/10/refreshed-2022-lincoln-navigator-spied-testing-in-heavy-camo/

Bout time.With some body and refinement polishing(better nvh, better rough road ride, quieter), better tech and functionality, and better build quality, this should keep it st or near top of the class. Im sure now that gm and jeep showed their cards, ford can tune their suvs accordingly.

 

[lurch]

I really hope the refresh brings an Expedition with the PowerBoost, ProPower and air suspension.

 

[NyackRob79]

I'm really looking forward to it. If Sync 4 and a larger screen are coming, that would be a great improvement. Our 2018 Expy lease expires in June, so not quite in-time to take delivery of a 2022 model. I'm thinking of leasing a GMC Yukon XL Denali for 24 months, and then take a 2023 Expy Platinum, which should have any kinks from the refresh worked out.

 

[dlcorbett]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.au...ford-expedition-lincoln-navigator-spy-photos/

Bigger screen and std led headlights looks to be on the menu. Hopefulli they integrate the pad style screen to the dash like the navigator instead of the tacked on version like the explorer.

 

[JExpedition07]

It would be cool to see the PowerBoost as an option, 570 lb ft!!! GM recently put out a survey on if buyers would like a hybrid 6.2 and many responded positively. The horsepower wars are heating up. I’m curious how Ford is handling the Raptor since the Limited is now just the standard 400 hp engine. Is the HO gone? I’ve heard the Raptor is going to be the PowerBoost but that’s a heavy package. Spurces also say Ford is going to make a new limited # Raptor trim with the 5.2L Predator GT-500 engine to hit back the TRX. Even at 5.2 Liters with a supercharger they are still down on RAM’s 6.2L Hellcat engine by a whole liter in displacement. I guess we will see if those better breathing 4-valve heads can feed enough air to compete with TRX. It’s on a whole other level compared to the current Raptor, it blew the HO 3.5 out of the water in TFL’s testing by over 2 seconds 0-60.

 

[JasonH]

It would be cool to see the PowerBoost as an option, 570 lb ft!!! GM recently put out a survey on if buyers would like a hybrid 6.2 and many responded positively. The horsepower wars are heating up. I’m curious how Ford is handling the Raptor since the Limited is now just the standard 400 hp engine. Is the HO gone? I’ve heard the Raptor is going to be the PowerBoost but that’s a heavy package. Spurces also say Ford is going to make a new limited # Raptor trim with the 5.2L Predator GT-500 engine to hit back the TRX. Even at 5.2 Liters with a supercharger they are still down on RAM’s 6.2L Hellcat engine by a whole liter in displacement. I guess we will see if those better breathing 4-valve heads can feed enough air to compete with TRX. It’s on a whole other level compared to the current Raptor, it blew the HO 3.5 out of the water in TFL’s testing by over 2 seconds 0-60.

I didn't think Ford would add the Powerboost without redoing the entire vehicle, but they did add the Ecboost during a refresh, so who knows? GM needs to step it up...Barra is saying they're going to lead in EVs, but lately they've been following in everything else (interior, quality, engines, off-road trims) The Raptor will likely get two engine options, to preserve pricing flexibility. I don't think the 5.2 will have any problem keeping up with the Hellcat. The DOHC head naturally flows better, so it's easier to make higher HP numbers without running more boost at high RPM. Biggest challenge might be cooling, but the Raptor will have more frontal area and engine bay space as compared to a GT500 with the same engine. If GM had brought the new Hummer in closer to the 80K price point, would've been nice to see a comparison. The lower fuel consumption and maintenance would have made up for the price disparity.

 

[JExpedition07]

I didn't think Ford would add the Powerboost without redoing the entire vehicle, but they did add the Ecboost during a refresh, so who knows? GM needs to step it up...Barra is saying they're going to lead in EVs, but lately they've been following in everything else (interior, quality, engines, off-road trims) The Raptor will likely get two engine options, to preserve pricing flexibility. I don't think the 5.2 will have any problem keeping up with the Hellcat. The DOHC head naturally flows better, so it's easier to make higher HP numbers without running more boost at high RPM. Biggest challenge might be cooling, but the Raptor will have more frontal area and engine bay space as compared to a GT500 with the same engine. If GM had brought the new Hummer in closer to the 80K price point, would've been nice to see a comparison. The lower fuel consumption and maintenance would have made up for the price disparity.

I think the new V8 Raptor will have no problem keeping up with TRX in the 1/4 mile I’m not arguing that. My suspicion is out of the hole, that 6.2 in the RAM has gobs of tire shredding torque low down. We know the 5.2 can out do the Hellcat in the GT500, but that’s in a lighter and more aerodynamic car where horsepower is king. But does the same hold true in a heavy truck? I guess we will find out. I’m sure Ford doesn’t want to let RAM keep the crown long.

As long as GM holds true to the promises on Hummer EV it will blow all of these gas powered mills out of the water. 3.0 seconds 0-60.

 

[JasonH]

I think the new V8 Raptor will have no problem keeping up with TRX in the 1/4 mile I’m not arguing that. My suspicion is out of the hole, that 6.2 in the RAM has gobs of tire shredding torque low down. We know the 5.2 can out do the Hellcat in the GT500, but that’s in a lighter and more aerodynamic car where horsepower is king. But does the same hold true in a heavy truck? I guess we will find out. I’m sure Ford doesn’t want to let RAM keep the crown long.

As long as GM holds true to the promises on Hummer EV it will blow all of these gas powered mills out of the water. 3.0 seconds 0-60.

Even if the Ram is quicker off the line, the engines will hit peak RPM quickly and stay there during an acceleration run. If the V8 Raptor uses Ford's aluminum body components, it will retain its nearly 1,000lb advantage over the TRX, so at equivalent horsepower levels, it will likely be faster everywhere. Ford could conceivably add the Powerboost components and eke out even more power without matching the TRXs weight. Either way, us consumers are winning with all the choices coming to the market. I'm in pancake flat southeast Texas...reading about these trucks makes me want to find someplace to go offroading.

 

[Deadman]

either way, that huge disgusting touchpad sticking out of the dash is a deal breaker for me. I'd buy something else, I hate that.

 

[dlcorbett]

either way, that huge disgusting touchpad sticking out of the dash is a deal breaker for me. I'd buy something else, I hate that.

Doesn't your wife have a navigator though lol?

 

[Deadman]

Doesn't your wife have a navigator though lol?

She does and I hate it. She even thinks the screen is awful, but she liked the Navigator and we found a killer deal on it. I only agreed to it because it has the Raptor Motor in it. I don't drive it, its overly complicated and annoying, but it hauls azzzzz stock and I like that. We paid far less for the 15K miles Black Label Navigator L 4x4 than I paid for my Expedition new, so it worked. I'd never drive it daily, I couldn't stand all the electronic trash.

 

[Expedition Dave]

Meh. At the rate we are all going, it will be a unibody design in 10 years...

 

[dlcorbett]

Changes: 15in screen, redesigned vents, my21 f150 steering wheel and digital tach, redesigned cowl shape.

Thoughts...?

https://fordauthority.com/2020/11/2...-spy-shots-show-huge-new-infotainment-screen/

 

[Zig10]

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Changes: 15in screen, redesigned vents, my21 f150 steering wheel and digital tach, redesigned cowl shape.

Thoughts...?

https://fordauthority.com/2020/11/2...-spy-shots-show-huge-new-infotainment-screen/

I've got the 12" uconnect system in my Ram, and I would probably not get it next time. It has actually run seemlessly for me (knocking on wood) and it really looks incredible, but it's a pain in the a$$ to have to go into a menu to turn on the heated / cooled seats, steering wheel, etc. Nothing like having to take your eyes off of the road to do something simple when an actual button would be easier.

So for the giant ipad in the Expy I'll take a hard pass. That said, an update on the overall look of the dash would be welcome.

 

[dlcorbett]

If you look towards the bottom of the screen, the hvac controls are readily available including the seat temp ctrls, no menu digging required.

 

[dlcorbett]

https://www.autoblog.com/photos/2022-ford-expedition-spy-photos/#slide-2275339

This was posted in another thread. Has exterior photos of what looks to be platinum trim.

 

[scottdm]

I totally agree on the convenience of physical buttons. Our Expedition has a physical button for the heated steering wheel, but our 2020 F350 requires you to use Sync to turn the steering wheel on/off since it doesn't have a physical button. PITA when driving to fuss with menus.

 

[Lou Hamilton]

I totally agree on the convenience of physical buttons. Our Expedition has a physical button for the heated steering wheel, but our 2020 F350 requires you to use Sync to turn the steering wheel on/off since it doesn't have a physical button. PITA when driving to fuss with menus.

Even more cumbersome if using Apple CarPlay or Android Auto

 

[LokiWolf]

Even more cumbersome if using Apple CarPlay or Android Auto

But on Sync 4 it most likely won’t take up the whole screen. My Explorer with the 10.1 tall screen, most people complain because CarPlay is only the Top half. I like it because it is easier to get to menus and things. Don’t have to press the Ford button first.


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[Deadman]

Wife's Navigator has the huge screen with fewer buttons and we both think its stupid.
Give me the damn buttons and a knob for the radio and quit this annoying computer bs. Let it be a car already.....