Yes to eLSD or No to eLSD on our next Expedition

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Currently considering used 2020 or possible 2021. It will be our 4th Expedition since 1995 and probably keep 8+/- years. Presently driving 2010 King Ranch 4x4.

Looking forward, our driving may be less adventurous than in the past and will predictably include (but who really knows anymore!)...
Wet roads regularly, mostly paved.
Dirt/gravel roads, muddy roads quarterly.
Tow some, but not frequently.
Snow/ice couple times per year.

Should we say Yes to eLSD or No to eLSD on our next Expedition? What do you think?

 

[Chio4]

Yes and HD TOW

 

[Rob6805]

I just bought a 21 Stealth w/ HD tow. It does NOT have ELSD. In 21 they broke out the option as stand alone (no longer inc in HD tow). Anyway, at first I was bummed out because I thought I would of liked to have the option. BUT, I have been reading that many folks have issues with ELSD. I still would of liked to have it though.

 

[Fozzy]

Do you currently have a locking rear diff in your king ranch ? If not you won’t miss it. But in a bind 3 wheel drive is always better. Traction control is getting pretty advanced these days and the new rear diff takes advantage of it and lets you “lock” it.


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[Deadman]

They're prone to failures. Mine puked at around 25,000 miles. They had to replace the entire rear end carrier assembly because the ELSD failed to disengage properly. I wouldn't be without the 3.73 gears and locker, but it sucks that it fails.

 

[Deadman]

They're prone to failures. Mine puked at around 25,000 miles. They had to replace the entire rear end carrier assembly because the ELSD failed to disengage properly. I wouldn't be without the 3.73 gears and locker, but it sucks that it fails.

 

[Calidad]

Number one weakness in the full sized rigs is lack of a rear locker. A big factor why I wanted one in my next full size.

My Sequoia getting stuck in some embarrassing spots ie no rear locker was for sure a huge factor.

Hell even 2wd with locker would have gotten through two spots my Sequoia totally didn’t lol

As for failures? That locker is in 1000’s of rigs. Yeah a few had faulty parts that got fixed on warranty. Mind has been fine.

 

[Fozzy]

They're prone to failures. Mine puked at around 25,000 miles. They had to replace the entire rear end carrier assembly because the ELSD failed to disengage properly. I wouldn't be without the 3.73 gears and locker, but it sucks that it fails.

Where are the stats to prove that? The Eaton eSLD has been in production since 2005 when Jeep started using it.


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[shane_th_ee]

I just bought a 21 Stealth w/ HD tow. It does NOT have ELSD. In 21 they broke out the option as stand alone (no longer inc in HD tow). Anyway, at first I was bummed out because I thought I would of liked to have the option. BUT, I have been reading that many folks have issues with ELSD. I still would of liked to have it though.

Are you saying yours has the 3.73 gears but NOT the eLSD? What's the GAWR?

 

[shane_th_ee]

Should we say Yes to eLSD or No to eLSD on our next Expedition? What do you think?

Yes. Far better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. You did say "mud", "snow" and "ice" which are exactly where you'll want it.

 

[1970Maverick]

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[Going_Going_Gone]

At least you know about the eLSD being changed to a stand-alone option instead of being included in the HD towing pkg. Our 2019 has the HD towing package with eLSD, but it came that way. My primary interest in the HD tow pkg. was the 3.73 axle ratio and having a little more get-up-and-go. Now if I still owned a boat and were buying again, i would probably have valued eLSD enough to pay extra. 4X4 and the various drive modes will easily get people into and out of most "reasonable" driving situations, and having eLSD won't be an antidote for bad choices.

 

[Rob6805]

Are you saying yours has the 3.73 gears but NOT the eLSD? What's the GAWR?

Yes. I'll have to look at the door sticker in the morning.

 

[Deadman]

Where are the stats to prove that? The Eaton eSLD has been in production since 2005 when Jeep started using it.


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a month ago there was 3 ACTIVE posts of guys "just on this forum" that all puked their rear ends from the E locker failure. Not sure what other data you need....

 

[Soliyou]

a month ago there was 3 ACTIVE posts of guys "just on this forum" that all puked their rear ends from the E locker failure. Not sure what other data you need....

Yes, but there are numerous posts about cam phasers, sun roofs, and transmission failures.

My point is to get what fits your needs and hope for the best. Also enjoy the boost!

That said, I only needed the rear locker twice in the past two years.

 

[Deadman]

Yes, but there are numerous posts about cam phasers, sun roofs, and transmission failures.

My point is to get what fits your needs and hope for the best. Also enjoy the boost!

That said, I only needed the rear locker twice in the past two years.

I think the lack of usage is what possibly caused mines failure. I rarely need the locker as I run my 3/4 ton on anything work related, so my Expedition becomes a pavement princess and the E locker seized up from lack of use "maybe", but its only a guess.

 

[Fozzy]

a month ago there was 3 ACTIVE posts of guys "just on this forum" that all puked their rear ends from the E locker failure. Not sure what other data you need....

Out of 100K + diffs. Not prone to failure.


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[FlyBry]

What he said is my suggestion - Yes and HD TOW with 3:73 gears.

 

[mcb345]

Jumping on the train of HD Tow and locker if you think you might want or need it.

The 2020 Special Edition and Stealth Edition include this combo, just look for the black wheels if shopping online.

As for the “reliability” issue of it, just spend $2500ish on a 125k mile bumper to bumper warranty through one of the recommended dealers that sell these like they’re going out of style. Best investment you can make if you’re holding it for 8 years. It will pay for itself 10 fold.

 

[Deadman]

Out of 100K + diffs. Not prone to failure.


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My dealer said Ford already had a service note on this, so its clearly been done before in his opinion. I have no way to know how many failures, but 3 in a week seems like enough to make me think it could fail again on mine.