'22 Ordering questions / options

[chaffdb]

Hello, I'm new here and had a few questions before I placed an order. We finally think we've figured out what we want and can't find it in a '21 in the color combination we prefer. We were able to get an X-plan pin, but haven't given it to a dealer yet or let them know we have it. Any tips or suggestions about how to handle that, and will it actually lead to a better price or any priority? I've got a dealer already coming down some on an order and making it pretty attractive. Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

We are looking at a Limited Max 4X2 with the following options:

-302A ($1705) - this package has the stuff we want an appears to be pretty reasonable on the '22's. Less than half the cost as on previous years

-Heavy Duty Trailer Tow ($795)- we don't "need" this, per se, but I think we want it. I say this because I seriously doubt we pull anything heavier than probably 5-6k pounds, and most often it will only be a 6x14 utility trailer with a total load in probably the 2k range. However, I like having the trailer brakes and the back up assist should be handy for my wife. I wish it still came with the larger radiator and the eLSD, but alas that was apparently only on '18-21's for the radiator and '18-20's for the eLSD. Most importantly, I really want the 3.73 gears. I've driven both 3.31 and 3.73's in the 4th gen and could feel the difference around town. I know. I would hope so, right? I understand there is some debate on the mileage penalty, but I am leaning pretty heavily this way as I am not convinced it will be much, and possibly not even noticeable, in my real world use.

-CCD w/ susp road preview ($995). Pretty sure we want this from what I have read on the here. The ones I have driven have all had CCD.

-Advanced Cargo Manager ($335). Considering this but figure it could be added later if we needed crossbars.

- we want captain's chairs, but looks like this is standard now on Limiteds

-think we are leaning toward staying with the smaller infotainment screen. I prefer needles on the dash, and the larger screen, no offense, just doesn't look like it fits. Understand we are giving up Sync 4A, dashcards, profiles, and the digital dash, but I think we are ok with that. Am I missing something I might regret with this?

-For that matter, anything else we are missing or should seriously consider? Auto Start-Stop Removal is a "Required Option". Will probably go after market for floor liners and cargo mat unless the Ford ones are exceptionally incredible or something. We live in the South, so don't think we need an engine block heater. My kids have tablets and I have never been wild about built in entertainment systems, especially not for the cost. What else are we missing?

Anyone share a decent price for something like the above? MSRP is $71,485 without Advanced Cargo Manager, $71,820 with it, and $72,615 with it and with the 15.5" screen.

Thanks in advance for the help. I feel like I've already learned a fair amount here, and am looking forward to being a part in the future.

 

[dlcorbett]

Looks like everything's covered.

 

[MattG]

We have a Limited 302a with additional options such as CCD and so on in a 2020. I find it a good choice/balance as you get a well optioned vehicle for a "reasonable" price point.

Stick with the Captains chairs for sure.
Aftermarket floor mats are the way to go, for the rear cargo as well.

I've been pondering a 22 and agree with you about the 12" infotainment vs the 15".

 

[rpw2021]

I ordered pretty much the same vehicle last November, except that I also added the eLSD and did not order the CCD.

I didn't opt for the cargo manager - couldn't really figure out what that was, tbh.

I also went with the 12" screen. I definitely would have gone for Sync4A if BlueCruise was included (or even an option), but without that the additional tech wasn't worth it to me.

 

[USKflt]

I ordered a Limited Max 4x4 with the 303A, HD tow, CCD, ControlTrac and cargo in December. MSRP is a hair under $79k and paying just over $73k. That’s before any rebates, trade, tax, etc. I had a $3,500 PCO that is not included in the $73k figure. I also went with the 12” screen. I don’t love the speedo/tach style on the digital screen in the F-150 (no ticks or static numbers displayed) and didn’t want my HVAC controls on a screen. Wanted hard buttons so passed on that option. I like the 12” in the F-150.

 

[chaffdb]

Thanks for the input, all. It is much appreciated.

I ordered pretty much the same vehicle last November, except that I also added the eLSD and did not order the CCD.

I didn't opt for the cargo manager - couldn't really figure out what that was, tbh.

I also went with the 12" screen. I definitely would have gone for Sync4A if BlueCruise was included (or even an option), but without that the additional tech wasn't worth it to me.

Isn't the eLSD (Code 62E for a Limited, King Ranch, and Platinum) only available with 4X4 and includes the 2-speed transfer case? The notes on 62E in the Order Guide appear to say this, and the chart on top of Page 26 of the Order Guide shows this, too, except for the XL 102A (SSV) regular and Max that can get the eLSD in a 4X2.

Advanced Cargo Manager - all that is listed in the '22 Order Guide are the roof cross rails. I thought it used to include a shelf or something for the rear in prior years. I have a nice roof bag we have used on our Highlander, but we likely won't need it moving to a much larger vehicle. Cross rails could be added later if ever needed.

I ordered a Limited Max 4x4 with the 303A, HD tow, CCD, ControlTrac and cargo in December. MSRP is a hair under $79k and paying just over $73k. That’s before any rebates, trade, tax, etc. I had a $3,500 PCO that is not included in the $73k figure. I also went with the 12” screen. I don’t love the speedo/tach style on the digital screen in the F-150 (no ticks or static numbers displayed) and didn’t want my HVAC controls on a screen. Wanted hard buttons so passed on that option. I like the 12” in the F-150.

That's truly impressive! Which dealer, if you don't mind? Without the X-Plan, the best I have been able to get so far is $4k off sticker (including incentives), plus TTL. Considering some dealers in the vicinity are still marking '21's up from sticker and most are offering no discount other than what is available through Ford, I thought I thought this wasn't terrible. My parents had a $3,500 PCO for F-150, Super Duty, and Expedition, but it expired 1/3, unfortunately.

 

[rpw2021]

Yes, I also got the 4x4 version. A definite must for my use case.

The cross rails are about $150-200 and easily available from a variety of sources.

 

[mrmustang]

As far as the X-Plan goes, call ahead of time and let them know you have it. Not all dealers participate, at least in my area.

Make an appointment to sit down with the sales manager (only one who can input the X-plan order), show him or her your paperwork/PIN, place your order.

It really is that simple.

Bill

 

[USKflt]

Thanks for the input, all. It is much appreciated.


Isn't the eLSD (Code 62E for a Limited, King Ranch, and Platinum) only available with 4X4 and includes the 2-speed transfer case? The notes on 62E in the Order Guide appear to say this, and the chart on top of Page 26 of the Order Guide shows this, too, except for the XL 102A (SSV) regular and Max that can get the eLSD in a 4X2.

Advanced Cargo Manager - all that is listed in the '22 Order Guide are the roof cross rails. I thought it used to include a shelf or something for the rear in prior years. I have a nice roof bag we have used on our Highlander, but we likely won't need it moving to a much larger vehicle. Cross rails could be added later if ever needed.


That's truly impressive! Which dealer, if you don't mind? Without the X-Plan, the best I have been able to get so far is $4k off sticker (including incentives), plus TTL. Considering some dealers in the vicinity are still marking '21's up from sticker and most are offering no discount other than what is available through Ford, I thought I thought this wasn't terrible. My parents had a $3,500 PCO for F-150, Super Duty, and Expedition, but it expired 1/3, unfortunately.

Granger. There are a few discussed on the F150 forums that are still doing under invoice but they’re limited. Mine was 3% under invoice before rebates.

 

[1sttimer]

I ordered a Limited Max 4x4 with the 303A, HD tow, CCD, ControlTrac and cargo in December. MSRP is a hair under $79k and paying just over $73k. That’s before any rebates, trade, tax, etc. I had a $3,500 PCO that is not included in the $73k figure. I also went with the 12” screen. I don’t love the speedo/tach style on the digital screen in the F-150 (no ticks or static numbers displayed) and didn’t want my HVAC controls on a screen. Wanted hard buttons so passed on that option. I like the 12” in the F-150.

How did you come across your PCO? That's my mission right now...

 

[USKflt]

How did you come across your PCO? That's my mission right now...

I’ve gotten one in the mail/email the last couple of years at the end of the year. I ordered brochures in the past before purchases to get them and I’m assuming my info is still on their marketing list. Seems to me it’s a regional thing as my parents usually get one around the same time.

 

[chaffdb]

Thanks again for all the info and help. Much appreciated.

On the PCO, my folks have gotten one the last couple years, too, and it varied which vehicles it applied to and how much. They have only owned Fords and Lincolns since the '80's, and frankly they are overdue. She has a very low mile '09 Town Car (less than 60k miles, I believe), and he has an '09 F-150 with 160k miles or so on it. Both are in their 80's, with him turning 90 near the end of this month, and they seem content with what they have.

 

[1sttimer]

Granger. There are a few discussed on the F150 forums that are still doing under invoice but they’re limited. Mine was 3% under invoice before rebates.

How was it working with Granger? I'm about to order from them, but I'm worried they won't let me use any available rebates at the time it arrives, or I'll get there and they'll have a bunch of add-ons they require. Any funny business?

 

[TxBrian]

How was it working with Granger? I'm about to order from them, but I'm worried they won't let me use any available rebates at the time it arrives, or I'll get there and they'll have a bunch of add-ons they require. Any funny business?

I bought my truck from granger (picked up last month) and have an expedition on order from them also.
They are awesome, no funny business, no add ons, etc.
Everything was done via email and all I did when I got there was sign the odometer statement and I was done .
They will honor/add any rebates available at the time you take delivery.

 

[USKflt]

I bought my truck from granger (picked up last month) and have an expedition on order from them also.
They are awesome, no funny business, no add ons, etc.
Everything was done via email and all I did when I got there was sign the odometer statement and I was done .
They will honor/add any rebates available at the time you take delivery.

They seem well received on the F150 forum so I ordered from them. My only concern is my PCO I had at the time of the order. They said if it’s valid they’ll apply it and said this over the phone and via the forum, but they wouldn’t look at it, tell me it was valid or include it on my deal sheet. They also said they don’t lock in rebates at time of order. It has me a little worried they won’t honor it and will instead apply rebates at delivery which likely won’t touch the $3,500 PCO. Fingers crossed I guess. Everything outside of that has been super smooth so far.

 

[mlogan]

I would make sure they apply the PCO to your order before it expires - mine expired 1/2/22 and so I made sure it was part of the order - I did all mine via text/email and send photos of the offer to my dealer (even though they're only 10 minutes from my house)

 

[USKflt]

I would make sure they apply the PCO to your order before it expires - mine expired 1/2/22 and so I made sure it was part of the order - I did all mine via text/email and send photos of the offer to my dealer (even though they're only 10 minutes from my house)

That’s what I’m saying. I did try to get them to lock it in. They wouldn’t but said if it was valid they will apply it to the order. That’s why I’m a little worried.

 

[TxBrian]

That’s what I’m saying. I did try to get them to lock it in. They wouldn’t but said if it was valid they will apply it to the order. That’s why I’m a little worried.

It’s my understanding that is the way Ford does it, rebates and pco’s can’t be locked in ahead of time, it’s whatever rebates are in effect at time of delivery.
Rebates and pco’s are paid by ford not the dealership at delivery.
I have read that ford will extend a expired pco if it’s close to the delivery date but it’s case by case and has to be done by ford not the dealer.
That’s why granger won’t apply it on an order form, they have no way of knowing if it will be valid when the vehicle comes in.
Plenty of people have posted that they got whatever rebates and pco’a were valid upon delivery at Granger.

 

[USKflt]

It’s my understanding that is the way Ford does it, rebates and pco’s can’t be locked in ahead of time, it’s whatever rebates are in effect at time of delivery. I have read that ford will extend a expired pco if it’s close to the delivery date but it’s case by case and has to be done by ford not the dealer.

Unless something has changed, Ford offers an incentive protection program. I.e., dealers can lock in incentives at the time of order. Some dealers opt to do this and some don’t. Usually you can lock them in at the time of order and then take whichever rebates are higher (those when ordered or those when delivered). Participation is decided at the dealer level not by Ford. My source is Ford Customer Service directly as well as multiple dealers.

 

[TxBrian]

Unless something has changed, Ford offers an incentive protection program. I.e., dealers can lock in incentives at the time of order. Some dealers opt to do this and some don’t. Usually you can lock them in at the time of order and then take whichever rebates are higher (those when ordered or those when delivered). Participation is decided at the dealer level not by Ford. My source is Ford Customer Service directly as well as multiple dealers.

That makes sense but there has to be a downside for the dealers otherwise there would be no reason to not take part in the program. My guess is it reduces their margin somehow and if they are already discounting, then it may not be worth “participating”