2022 Expedition vs 2018-20221

[Lynnii2]

My wife and I are currently in the market for a new Expedition. I was currently looking at Ford Expedition Platinum Max 2020 or 2021. I also went to Ford.com to get a quote on the 2022 Ford Expedition Platinum Max and the pricing is so close it seem like it would be a better buy to buy new vs used? Does anyone know if there is a difference in the 2021 vs 2022 besides the front face lift, inside dash update and blue cruise option.

 

[StephenPT]

Front and rear face lift and new dash. New model (Timberline).

Prices are close to new or even more than new on used ones you'll find on dealer lots because if you order new you'll be waiting awhile. If you can wait, go new. If not, then be prepared to pay a premium for a used vehicle that is sitting on a dealer's lot.

 

[Lynnii2]

I have seen 2018-2020 Platinum Max and Limited with high miles like over 125,000 still going for $48,000 and as low as 10,000 miles going for mid $70,000 range. I am in no rush to pay these absorbent car prices.

 

[rpw2021]

I agree with @StephenPT: if you can wait the 4 months+ to get a new '22 that is likely to be a much better option.

 

[Lynnii2]

Thanks for the help @StephenPT and @rpw2021 I will reach out to a family member that works at a local Ford dealership and see if I can use his X-Plan pricing on a new 2022 Platinum Max and Limited Max. I really like the Timberline but I need the extra room due to 3 kids and 2 dog.

 

[NukeLife]

I would steer clear of anything with a motor built before June 2020. I believe this is the date Ford is claiming the cam phaser issue was resolved. I haven’t confirmed it yet, (still doing some digging) but evidently, they redesigned the camshaft bearing cap at the front—from a three bolt cap, to a four bolt cap. Their theory (based on extensive postmortem analyses of several “failed VCT engines”) was that the three bolt cap was not consistently sealing well and causing oil pressure/flow to be diverted which was robbing the downstream component of oil flow/pressure. The downstream component from that bearing cap is the VCT. (Cam phasers)

In order to make things “right” for the rest of us poor suckers, Ford would need to replace our heads. so yeah, that’s why this information is not readily available, and why Ford’s “fix”, for us, is merely a gimmick (PCM reprogramming ) to hide the larger issue until your vehicle is not covered by any warranty.

 

[RetiredSOB]

Hasn't Ford had this "cam phaser" problem on several previous Ford models?

 

[ygfvdrrtffy]

Thanks for the help @StephenPT and @rpw2021 I will reach out to a family member that works at a local Ford dealership and see if I can use his X-Plan pricing on a new 2022 Platinum Max and Limited Max. I really like the Timberline but I need the extra room due to 3 kids and 2 dog.

IIRC, the dealer has D-plan, which is better than X-plan. Not sure if it is still a program or not?

 

[mrmustang]

IIRC, the dealer has D-plan, which is better than X-plan. Not sure if it is still a program or not?

A & D Plan are more tightly controlled then the X Plan.

There is a reason why X-Plan is labeled "friends and family"

Bill

 

[Lynnii2]

IIRC, the dealer has D-plan, which is better than X-plan. Not sure if it is still a program or not?

Thanks. I will check into it tomorrow on with my uncle on the D-Plan and X-Plan pricing.

 

[Lynnii2]

I really wish Ford would make 3.0 diesel available for the Expedition. My second option was a 2021-2022 GMC Denali XL diesel since my wife does a lot of driving for work, kids school and normal driving around.

 

[lv2drive]

I really wish Ford would make 3.0 diesel available for the Expedition. My second option was a 2021-2022 GMC Denali XL diesel since my wife does a lot of driving for work, kids school and normal driving around.

^^ THIS. it would be a great power plant in this platform.

oh well - all signs point to nope, for now, but we can hope they’ll eventually be offering powerboost hybrid at least.

(best of both worlds would be if they did a hybrid / powerstroke combo , and really gave us the torque/efficiency... that would be my first choice hands down.... highly unlikely but heck a boy can dream right?)

 

[dlcorbett]

I really wish Ford would make 3.0 diesel available for the Expedition. My second option was a 2021-2022 GMC Denali XL diesel since my wife does a lot of driving for work, kids school and normal driving around.

You can blame the f150 buyers for this

 

[Jeff Sweeney]

NukeLife : PCM reprogramming. Send an update if you find that Ford is offering a fix or anything.... I have a 2018 Ford Expedition XLT Max.

 

[Deadman]

Buy it new, there's no reason to pay near new prices for used cars.

 

[Polo08816]

Buy it new, there's no reason to pay near new prices for used cars.

On top of that, there's no reason to pay these type of prices for something that's not exactly what you want either.

The only way to really get something exactly the way you want is to factory order it.

 

[JExpedition07]

You can blame the f150 buyers for this

Can you blame them? The 0-60 is slower than the 5.4 lol. Imagine dropping 65 grand and having a rattler blow by you with rust blowing off the fender wells

 

[Deadman]

Can you blame them? The 0-60 is slower than the 5.4 lol. Imagine dropping 65 grand and having a rattler blow by you with rust blowing off the fender wells

Exactly, those baby diesels are underpowered turds. The 1/2 ton drivetrain can't handle big torque, so they limited them to the point that they were useless.

 

[Lynnii2]

A & D Plan are more tightly controlled then the X Plan.

There is a reason why X-Plan is labeled "friends and family"

Bill

I was able to get touch with my uncle and I can use his D plan pricing on a new expedition. Thanks letting me know about that plan option.