This all looks like a CYA on Ford's part. Still no root cause or corrective action for preventing the fire. It's for folks who cannot park their vehicle outside or away from a structure. Disconnect the battery and get them a rental.
Safety Recall 22S36 - Certain 2021 Model Year Expedition and Lincoln Navigator Vehicles - Underhood Fire
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It does provide an avenue to relief for Owners whose requests are granted.
It doesn't hurt to ask, if your circumstances can be interpreted as being unique.
It doesn't hurt to ask, if your circumstances can be interpreted as being unique.
Yes, true. And it tells me that Ford believes that the risk of fire is real.
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I just picked up a 2021 Yukon from Enterprize for a long term rental. Arranged by my local dealer for a replacement for my 21 recalled due to engine fire Which is now sitting in my driveway with the battery discounted by a remote Ford mechanic. Rental is good for at least till the end of July.
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It seems pretty likely that it is electrical and you would think it would be pretty easy to narrow down production/product/part changes that took place during this time frame.
Ford knows what is causing the fires. They are most likely conducting a risk/cost analysis prior to coming out with the corrective action.
Ran into this article this morning on a FB Expedition forum. Possible solution ahead?
Expanded recall and possible root cause?
Expanded recall and possible root cause?
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Ford’s quality (or lack of it) has been deteriorating for quite some time.
Ford continues to rack-up massive numbers of safety recalls, many involving very serious concerns such as this.
I wonder when or if CEO Farley will get a grip on the poor quality and turn things around?
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Updated partial letters to Dealers, expanding involved vehicle build dates, separating action for vehicles equipped with standard duty versus heavy duty cooling fans, confirming repair strategy has been developed and sharing anticipated timing mentioned in the above-linked Fox2Detroit story...
Technical information on the repair procedures to the Battery Junction Box have been released and a link is included in Post #51 of this discussion...
Technical information on the repair procedures to the Battery Junction Box have been released and a link is included in Post #51 of this discussion...
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Thank you for posting this. It seems that the recall has expanded to almost the entire MY21 production run (July 20 - Aug 21).
My dealers service manager called me because he knows I have an impacted veh. He is having me bring it in next week to inspect the BJB. I assume that at some point (Sept) I will have to bring it back to have it replaced with an updated part.
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Link to technical information on Battery Junction Box inspection & repair procedure, presented as a single continuous image...
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The above-linked image is of Technical Information supplied with the Safety Recall 22S48 letter to Dealers, relating to Heavy Duty cooling fan vehicles.
No final repair Technical Information was supplied with the Safety Recall 22S36 Supplement 2 letter to Dealers, relating to Standard Duty cooling fan vehicles.
No final repair Technical Information was supplied with the Safety Recall 22S36 Supplement 2 letter to Dealers, relating to Standard Duty cooling fan vehicles.
That's quite an involved procedure. How many hours does it pay the technician?
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Dealerships will also be refunded 0.2 hour for claims preparation & submission.
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So, i've been tagged with the recal 22S36 - lovely...
Tried to identify the cooling fan relay, and after removing what i believed to be it, nothing worked - no abs, nothing...no starter... very strange. Never seen that before. almost as if that relay turns on power to everything...so this is much more complex than identifying the cooling fan power, and providing the relay with a 12v source
what the heck can we do as an interim bypass?
Tried to identify the cooling fan relay, and after removing what i believed to be it, nothing worked - no abs, nothing...no starter... very strange. Never seen that before. almost as if that relay turns on power to everything...so this is much more complex than identifying the cooling fan power, and providing the relay with a 12v source
what the heck can we do as an interim bypass?
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This is the Interim action for Standard Duty Cooling Fan vehicle owners...
Dealers have been advised to seek authorization to provide rental vehicles in increments up to 30-days to vehicle owners with "unique circumstances", about which you might be interpretive in describing your circumstances to your dealer...
Dealer guidelines for submitting claims regarding rentals are...
We can all be hopeful the final Recall repair procedure for Standard Duty Cooling Fan vehicles will be released soon.
Until then, seek a rental if you can express your interpretive qualifications, and have Mobile Service accomplish the Interim battery cable disconnect procedure if you have space to store your vehicle at home until the final Recall repair can be accomplished.
Dealers have been advised to seek authorization to provide rental vehicles in increments up to 30-days to vehicle owners with "unique circumstances", about which you might be interpretive in describing your circumstances to your dealer...
Dealer guidelines for submitting claims regarding rentals are...
We can all be hopeful the final Recall repair procedure for Standard Duty Cooling Fan vehicles will be released soon.
Until then, seek a rental if you can express your interpretive qualifications, and have Mobile Service accomplish the Interim battery cable disconnect procedure if you have space to store your vehicle at home until the final Recall repair can be accomplished.
I'm curious now that this news is out what is the position of our auto insurance? I would think that knowingly operating a vehicle that can catch fire at any time and be a total lose after the manufacturer has sent out these notice's. I am thinking one could be in a tough situation regarding collecting on a lose.
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