Under hood heat shield or insulation

[sulatek]

This is a truck forum not a political forum. Please act accordingly.
Just in case you didn't realize this is a warning to stop with the political posts.


@JUST4FUN

We have nothing to do with politics here

We are here talking about a fact
If you are a fan of gagging mouths
And that this satisfies the management of the forum
So ask them to tell me to leave quietly
You are here threatening me!!

This is the style of those who do not want to fix things

 

[Yupster Dog]

We have nothing to do with politics here

Correct. All but your last few posts.

You are here threatening me!!

Nope, just telling you the terms you agreed to when you signed up. (you can see them by clicking the terms and rules bottom right of any page on the forum)

Go elsewhere to spread your political views. You can start your own forum and do what you want, try other forums or you can talk about your Expedition here all you want.
No threat, just fact.

This is your second warning, please stop.

FACT: Politics would ruin every single thread with pages and pages of political rhetoric instead of information about expeditions.(why politics stopped here in the first place) The members of this forum come from all walks of life and have been getting along just fine. But that would not be the case if you insert politics.

If you are a fan of gagging mouths
And that this satisfies the management of the forum

So I will not be responding to your threat, but instead ask that you keep politics out of this forum.
If you have a problem with me, feel free to direct message any Admin and voice your opinion.

 

[nationalgallery]

FACT: Politics would ruin every single thread with pages and pages of political rhetoric instead of information about expeditions.(why politics stopped here in the first place) The members of this forum come from all walks of life and have been getting along just fine. But that would not be the case if you insert politics.

An obvious reality of any online venue, but nice of you to patiently explain it.

 

[sulatek]

Correct. All but your last few posts.

Nope, just telling you the terms you agreed to when you signed up. (you can see them by clicking the terms and rules bottom right of any page on the forum)

Go elsewhere to spread your political views. You can start your own forum and do what you want, try other forums or you can talk about your Expedition here all you want.
No threat, just fact.

This is your second warning, please stop.

FACT: Politics would ruin every single thread with pages and pages of political rhetoric instead of information about expeditions.(why politics stopped here in the first place) The members of this forum come from all walks of life and have been getting along just fine. But that would not be the case if you insert politics.

So I will not be responding to your threat, but instead ask that you keep politics out of this forum.
If you have a problem with me, feel free to direct message any Admin and voice your opinion.

Well Well
I will leave this forum for you to review the powers granted to you to curb those who say the word of truth.
I do not want a debate with those who cannot differentiate between the word of truth and politics
You have a lack of understanding
I am 66 years old, and I know that the word should be said where it should be
You cannot, neither you nor anyone else, block the sun's rays with your fingers
Ford itself manufactures important parts in JapanNothing wrong with that
Perhaps you have forgotten or forgotten that this iPhone, of which Apple is proud, did not make a copy of it in America
But all in China
Your problem is narrow minded
So I'm leaving this forum to gain peaceAnd I leave you your voice, dog, "as you called yourself"

 

[Yupster Dog]

I will leave this forum for you to review the powers granted to you to curb those who say the word of truth.

American corporations are self-destructing

Truth or not, what you seem to fail to realize is this forum is not your soap box.

Your problem is narrow minded

Sure are when it comes to someone from Saudi Arabia telling me about American problems. I mean can you even talk about your country's big companies and government publicly without getting beheaded?
Rhetorical Question
That means no need to hear from the hypocrite again.
I wish you well on your future journeys.

So I'm leaving this forum to gain peaceAnd

create chaos everywhere else?

 

[nationalgallery]

I am 66 years old, and I know that the word should be said where it should be
You cannot, neither you nor anyone else, block the sun's rays with your fingers

That unfortunate gentleman has some serious issues.
I hope in his search he finds a forum that can offer some help in that regard.

 

[LazSlate]

I may not agree with Ford but they have the right to remove items they deem may not be needed to lower the cost. We do not know their supply chain figures maybe things have gone way up out of their control and some engineers looked at the padding on the hood and deemed it was not necessary for the non HO engines.
No where on the window sticker does it say you purchased hood padding. And maybe its not needed, we are not Ford engineers.

I may not agree with Ford on things like this but maybe they have a valid reason.

Seems there is a lot of people who come on this site and just complain and complain about every little thing and it gets old.
People say "my speaker grill is lifted by 1mm". "This is a 85k car and we should have quality".

Yes we should have quality in everything but its not a 85K car. Its a 55K SUV with options.
A 5K KIA with a 80K sound system is not a 85K vehicle.

I agree lets call out the big defects and ask questions on this forum like this one about the hood padding.
But lets not go bezerk and scream lemon, ford sucks or march to the dealer and demand your hood padding.

 

[Samantha1]

My 2023 XLT that was built in December, 2022 and I picked up in January has the hood insulation.
Samantha

 

[SyndicateZ]

https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/body/hoods/hood-insulation-pad-insulator-front-p-jl1z16738b?pdp=y

For anyone looking to complete the build of their brand new $80,000 2023 Expedition that the factory most likely Forgot to install due to Fords awesome quality inspections or Ford part cost cutting and neglected to inform the buyer of parts purposely left of the vehicle.... You can buy this online or go to the dealer you ordered your $80,000 truck from and demand the hood saving insulation is installed.

 

[NotMyPorsche]

Whoa... this thread got out of control quickly! I was really just looking to see if my car should have the under hood insulation. From what I've read, it doesn't seem like it was supposed to be there in the first place.
Can anyone confirm whether their 2023 Expy has the LED lights on the key fob to confirm the remote start was successful (green) or not (red)? Mine doesn't, so want to understand if it's broken or non-existent.
Thanks everyone!

 

[m3olsen]

I have a 2023 Timberline that was built in December of 2022 and it did come with a hood insulation panel. Maybe reserved for the 3.5 H.O.

My Aug 2022 build 2022 SPP didn't come with hood insulation, so I don't think it's an HO thing.

 

[GixxerJasen]

Can anyone confirm whether their 2023 Expy has the LED lights on the key fob to confirm the remote start was successful (green) or not (red)? Mine doesn't, so want to understand if it's broken or non-existent.
Thanks everyone!

There's actually a recent thread on that.

2023 Timberline Expedition key fob light

Just purchased a new 2023 Timberline Expedition. WE have noticed that both fobs indicator light doesn't work. The fob appears to work for all functions but not the light. Is there something on the fob to change or in the vehicle settings? Would like to see on the fob that remote start did...

www.expeditionforum.com

 

[NotMyPorsche]

Thanks GixxerJasen... I just jumped to that thread and read through it. It appears the LED light area on my key FOBs are just for show. Disappointing.

 

[LazSlate]

https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/body/hoods/hood-insulation-pad-insulator-front-p-jl1z16738b?pdp=y

For anyone looking to complete the build of their brand new $80,000 2023 Expedition that the factory most likely Forgot to install due to Fords awesome quality inspections or Ford part cost cutting and neglected to inform the buyer of parts purposely left of the vehicle.... You can buy this online or go to the dealer you ordered your $80,000 truck from and demand the hood saving insulation is installed.

Somebody is disgruntled.

Manufacturers are always changing the designs as data comes in and things evolve.

They may have decided the hood padding is no longer needed, maybe they CHANGED the hood design for more air flow and indeed the customers with no hood padding may have a BETTER hood than ones with padding.

What about CAM phasers? The decide to re-design it AND NOT LET YOU KNOW. Are you mad cause you wanted to old design?

This forum can do without constant Ford bashing because Ford forget to include a lolly pop with your 80k purchase.

 

[SyndicateZ]

Somebody is disgruntled.

Manufacturers are always changing the designs as data comes in and things evolve.

They may have decided the hood padding is no longer needed, maybe they CHANGED the hood design for more air flow and indeed the customers with no hood padding may have a BETTER hood than ones with padding.

What about CAM phasers? The decide to re-design it AND NOT LET YOU KNOW. Are you mad cause you wanted to old design?

This forum can do without constant Ford bashing because Ford forget to include a lolly pop with your 80k purchase.

So the 2022's changed hood design within the same year? Why would Ford include hood insulation for one 2022 and not another 2022????? Oh , I know, Cost cutting or forgot to add it at the factory while charging the same price.

 

[GixxerJasen]

Cost cutting or forgot to add it at the factory while charging the same price.

Not likely, that "Hood shield delete" probably cost you an extra $500.

 

[nationalgallery]

'22 Platinum Oct '22 build, has heat shield:

 

[mwar99]

I have a 23 built in Dec 22 that has it

 

[SyndicateZ]

Its clear that if your hood doesn't have this heat shield then the factory simply forgot to install it and quality inspector missed it. I dont know why ford would pick and choose who gets one and doesnt get one for cost cutting purposes

 

[Bmac1955]

Sorry to get off post here. I had found on this site of the missing condensation drain hose TSB for the A/C. 2019 Expedition xlt. Just recently took it in for service and showed the Service Writer the TSB seeing mine was missing. It fell in the time frame that Ford designated of not being installed on vehicle when built. Obviously it was over looked during the build. It was installed for N/C. My guess is poor quality control. Could be the same for insulation not being installed or lack of part while going down the assembly line. Not sure what Ford will do for the omission of the insulation shield but, seeing latter models have it they're no excuses for it that I can see. Just my opinion.