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Tried to like other rigs/brands, but, nothing like the whole package that is the Expedition MAX Limited...
So, scooped up a '24 two weeks ago to replace the '19 I sold with the RV and have already had a good couple of highway blasts/trips. The '25, with that plastic tailgate, oval steering wheel and sweeping screen/display were no go's for me...
A few early observations:
1. Build quality seems way better on the '24 vs '19, a very pleasant surprise. The red stitching on the seats I like less than my '19s white/grey, but, I can live with it/looks sharp/growing on me. The doors/glass hatch/hood/fuel door/tailgate are all better aligned and close "tighter" (and more completely perhaps?) with a very satisfying single syllable "thump" or "click" as opposed to the "ker-thunks" of the '19. Fit and finish on the huge sunroof and the mechanism is really good/way quieter - snap/crackle/pop free for both shade and glass, which never happened with the '19/was a constant annoyance/****** that I would have deleted altogether if special ordering a '24.
2. All digital gauge cluster. I am getting used to it now (I guess), but, I'd rather see a needle sweeping on a graduated tach/speedo as opposed to the constantly changing numbers/digits - it's just too busy IMO. Anyone know if another view is possible to configure that is more traditional? I've looked and come up spades on that one.
3. Big touchscreen. I was targeting units without it mainly for the analog gauges - they were few and far between. The HVAC controls on a touch screen is just dumb/gimicky to me... Surely Ford got mixed feedback on this but from what was available new, the "higher end" ones almost all have it. Again, I'll get used to it and mainly keep everything on auto anyway, but, I'd just prefer a button for those controls. Only ones I found weren't white, silver, blue or were SPPs, so no limited spec trims left with it that I saw being sold as new. Really happy I went down that rabbit hole for the Stealth vs SPP spec that I almost pulled the trigger on at 6K more for 0 mechanical/part differences... Not interested in dishing out 6K for a tune, black mirror caps and red painted calipers or living with the dirt on a large black vehicle that will just be kept outside.
4. "Decontented" but better overall. No multicolor interior lights (I'll miss the red, orange and green for the standard ford blue), no button for captains chairs now/just the handle (which I actually prefer), and I like that the kids can't monkey with skipping tracks from the 2nd row.
5. Ride Quality is overall better... The '19 SE had CCD but maybe pulling a TT in it's early life adversely affected it? The '24 is tight, smooth and just the right amount of plush for in Normal mode. Sport mode seems to firm things up a bit there, too if/when I need to hustle it around.
6. Transmission - It was a demo unit with 224 mi on it when I bought it, but, each mode shifts through all the gears and seems really good/leaps and bounds smoother than the '19 which skipped and shifted really harsh when cold.
7. Added the J&L catch can at about 300 miles ~ 1100 later there was about a tablespoon in there.
8. Husky Xacts and Defender cargo liner are great/fit perfectly, I expect a lifetime of service for those.
9. Anyone know why there isn't that plastic engine cover that says ECOBOOST on '24s? I made the dealer I bought it from check a few F150s and Expeditions and there were none present.
10. Love the Auto Hold, the ability to shut off the double honk and the long delay on the running boards, too.
Had about 10 mins of having the cruise set at 100 after the first 1000 miles and it was super smooth/stable as can be. Some really interesting wheel weights on these **** stock General Grabber HTS tires! There is sometimes a very slight vibration at like 72-76MPH. I was rolling closer to 80/85 mostly, however and had no vibrations at that speed at all. If I swerve a bit in the lane when it is happening, it usually goes away - could that be the CCD or can I chalk that up to these garbage tires? I have never seen so many wheel weights used - one wheel has over 5 oz of lead on it and two others have over 4 oz. Anyone have any luck convincing a dealer to exchange them for what they want/something better?
Fuel mileage was indicating about 15, gobbling fuel due to speeds/running it in on the highway with a Lolo bike rack and 4 bikes... Everything I've owned gets better after a few thousand miles. I have no concerns there.
Next is debadging the hood letters and also entertaining a chome delete/c-pillar black out/front window tint and some MPT sauce to really make it mine...
Overall, very happy with it so far!
Feedback appreciated/welcomed...
So, scooped up a '24 two weeks ago to replace the '19 I sold with the RV and have already had a good couple of highway blasts/trips. The '25, with that plastic tailgate, oval steering wheel and sweeping screen/display were no go's for me...
A few early observations:
1. Build quality seems way better on the '24 vs '19, a very pleasant surprise. The red stitching on the seats I like less than my '19s white/grey, but, I can live with it/looks sharp/growing on me. The doors/glass hatch/hood/fuel door/tailgate are all better aligned and close "tighter" (and more completely perhaps?) with a very satisfying single syllable "thump" or "click" as opposed to the "ker-thunks" of the '19. Fit and finish on the huge sunroof and the mechanism is really good/way quieter - snap/crackle/pop free for both shade and glass, which never happened with the '19/was a constant annoyance/****** that I would have deleted altogether if special ordering a '24.
2. All digital gauge cluster. I am getting used to it now (I guess), but, I'd rather see a needle sweeping on a graduated tach/speedo as opposed to the constantly changing numbers/digits - it's just too busy IMO. Anyone know if another view is possible to configure that is more traditional? I've looked and come up spades on that one.
3. Big touchscreen. I was targeting units without it mainly for the analog gauges - they were few and far between. The HVAC controls on a touch screen is just dumb/gimicky to me... Surely Ford got mixed feedback on this but from what was available new, the "higher end" ones almost all have it. Again, I'll get used to it and mainly keep everything on auto anyway, but, I'd just prefer a button for those controls. Only ones I found weren't white, silver, blue or were SPPs, so no limited spec trims left with it that I saw being sold as new. Really happy I went down that rabbit hole for the Stealth vs SPP spec that I almost pulled the trigger on at 6K more for 0 mechanical/part differences... Not interested in dishing out 6K for a tune, black mirror caps and red painted calipers or living with the dirt on a large black vehicle that will just be kept outside.
4. "Decontented" but better overall. No multicolor interior lights (I'll miss the red, orange and green for the standard ford blue), no button for captains chairs now/just the handle (which I actually prefer), and I like that the kids can't monkey with skipping tracks from the 2nd row.
5. Ride Quality is overall better... The '19 SE had CCD but maybe pulling a TT in it's early life adversely affected it? The '24 is tight, smooth and just the right amount of plush for in Normal mode. Sport mode seems to firm things up a bit there, too if/when I need to hustle it around.
6. Transmission - It was a demo unit with 224 mi on it when I bought it, but, each mode shifts through all the gears and seems really good/leaps and bounds smoother than the '19 which skipped and shifted really harsh when cold.
7. Added the J&L catch can at about 300 miles ~ 1100 later there was about a tablespoon in there.
8. Husky Xacts and Defender cargo liner are great/fit perfectly, I expect a lifetime of service for those.
9. Anyone know why there isn't that plastic engine cover that says ECOBOOST on '24s? I made the dealer I bought it from check a few F150s and Expeditions and there were none present.
10. Love the Auto Hold, the ability to shut off the double honk and the long delay on the running boards, too.
Had about 10 mins of having the cruise set at 100 after the first 1000 miles and it was super smooth/stable as can be. Some really interesting wheel weights on these **** stock General Grabber HTS tires! There is sometimes a very slight vibration at like 72-76MPH. I was rolling closer to 80/85 mostly, however and had no vibrations at that speed at all. If I swerve a bit in the lane when it is happening, it usually goes away - could that be the CCD or can I chalk that up to these garbage tires? I have never seen so many wheel weights used - one wheel has over 5 oz of lead on it and two others have over 4 oz. Anyone have any luck convincing a dealer to exchange them for what they want/something better?
Fuel mileage was indicating about 15, gobbling fuel due to speeds/running it in on the highway with a Lolo bike rack and 4 bikes... Everything I've owned gets better after a few thousand miles. I have no concerns there.
Next is debadging the hood letters and also entertaining a chome delete/c-pillar black out/front window tint and some MPT sauce to really make it mine...
Overall, very happy with it so far!
Feedback appreciated/welcomed...
