2005 Eddie Bauer
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sgtowing
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I always love black vehicles
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Thanks, the wife is happy and so am I. Doesn't have air bags either so that makes me pretty happy also. There is only 1 spot on it between the rear passenger and the middle part that something melted on the carpet, but its under the seats so no one can see it.
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So we have driven maybe 400 miles on it. Took it to work today to pick up a bathroom vanity after work. Drop the kids off at daycare and there was a loud rattle coming from engine area....I thought to myself great the fan is loose or something since we had the heater on. Well we go to leave and reverse, put it in drive and it dies....restart it right up and away we go again not thinking anything of it really.
We get on the highway and as we hit rush hour traffic. We stop and it trys to die again, but i press the gas and we go. Sitting in traffic, it dies and didnt want to restart once, but lucky got it restarted. Drop the wife off and head to work. I mash the gas and nothing, so I get to work and pop up the hood and can hear a horrible rattle from the passenger side. Guessing they screwed up when they replaced the cam sensors....so now I get to call the place that did the work and get them to refix the problem as its under warranty for a year. Just hope they actually fix it and dont blow me off :/
What does everyone think...does it sound like the cam phasers? We are getting about 14 mpg with roughly 90% highway at 65-70mph
We get on the highway and as we hit rush hour traffic. We stop and it trys to die again, but i press the gas and we go. Sitting in traffic, it dies and didnt want to restart once, but lucky got it restarted. Drop the wife off and head to work. I mash the gas and nothing, so I get to work and pop up the hood and can hear a horrible rattle from the passenger side. Guessing they screwed up when they replaced the cam sensors....so now I get to call the place that did the work and get them to refix the problem as its under warranty for a year. Just hope they actually fix it and dont blow me off :/
What does everyone think...does it sound like the cam phasers? We are getting about 14 mpg with roughly 90% highway at 65-70mph
It could be any thing. Is the CEL on? Any codes? You must read the codes to know what is the problem otherwise it just guessing.
I just bought mine 6 weeks ago for $15K with low miles 47.5K miles to be exact. When I've got it home I replace d all pulleys and tensioner, the removed the mechanical fan and replaced it with two staggered electric fans. Put in two thousand miles so far and no complain. Knock on wood.
Good luck.
I just bought mine 6 weeks ago for $15K with low miles 47.5K miles to be exact. When I've got it home I replace d all pulleys and tensioner, the removed the mechanical fan and replaced it with two staggered electric fans. Put in two thousand miles so far and no complain. Knock on wood.
Good luck.
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nope, no cel or codes or anything. Seems like it just does it when its warm...like the phasers. Also in a way just when it wants to...will stop fine for a couple of times and then all the sudden it shutters and wants to die, then will be fine again and then want to die
Did you have a receipt from the previous owner said the Cam Phaser was done?
Do you hear the cam phaser tap when your engine is running rough?
I'm surprised to hear no codes have been thrown.
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I have the receipet from the dealer that had another dealer work on it. The one we bought it from said it had a year warranty on it, so I will be calling them tomorrow. It did finally throw the engine light, taking my bosses code reader home tonight to see what it says.
It seems to run ok, just NO power what so ever. Then when we start to stop, you can hear it rattling and then it dies. Good thing i was driving and not my wife, as when it died she probably wouldnt of known what to do
It seems to run ok, just NO power what so ever. Then when we start to stop, you can hear it rattling and then it dies. Good thing i was driving and not my wife, as when it died she probably wouldnt of known what to do
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Code 0345 - camshaft position sensor bank a circuit, bank 2.
Code 0340 - camshaft position sensor circuit malfunction.
So my guess is the cam phaser on the passenger side
Code 0340 - camshaft position sensor circuit malfunction.
So my guess is the cam phaser on the passenger side
sgtowing
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Will they waranty????
Did you replace the sensor itself yet?
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I'm calling the company that did the work today to see, but when I bought it the dealer said they have a 1 year warranty on it.
The place that did the work replaced....
timing sensor arm - 2
Timinig Guide - 2
Crankshaft front seal - 1
Camshaft sensor - 2
ht1/spark plug - 8
valve cover gasket sets - 1
motor oil - 6
timing chain - 2
oil filter - 1
The place that did the work replaced....
timing sensor arm - 2
Timinig Guide - 2
Crankshaft front seal - 1
Camshaft sensor - 2
ht1/spark plug - 8
valve cover gasket sets - 1
motor oil - 6
timing chain - 2
oil filter - 1
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well they said they would warranty the work. On their invoice it shows the camshaft sensor as being 206.57 a piece. Now its just a matter of getting them to call me back to take it up there. Keep calling and the owner keeps saying he will give Jay (the tech) the message.
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They finally worked on it...they changed EVERYTHING but the tensioners and of course thats what let go. So even though they had to open the engine up to find out if something they did was broke....it sounded like they still wanted to charge up the full amount for labor. Im hoping they work with us as they were SUPPOSE to call before they did anything that wasn't covered under their warranty.
Guess we will find out monday when they actually drive it and figure everything out. When they did everything they charged $700 for labor
Guess we will find out monday when they actually drive it and figure everything out. When they did everything they charged $700 for labor
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I would freak out on them if they told me I had to pay $700
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Thats how I feel too including they "thought" it was just the sensors....Then I called because I hadn't heard anything in 2 days and all the sudden the tensioner was the thing that was bad and they were suppose to call before they fixed anything NOT under their warranty.
His excuse was if we would of taken it to a different shop they would of just charged more since they already had it disassembled. I would of told them to put it back together and then fixed it my self if I would of known the problem. So the way I see it is, they HAD to go back into the engine because the sensors weren't the problem...so since labor was covered, I WOULD say and the point I will argue is that they had to go back into the engine anyways so I will cover the labor time for taken off the tensioner and putting the new one(s) back on. That's my thought since if it wasn't the tensioner and was something else they "fixed" everything would of been covered. He is "suppose" to call today to tell me about everything but I doubt he does as I have been having to call him about it.
His excuse was if we would of taken it to a different shop they would of just charged more since they already had it disassembled. I would of told them to put it back together and then fixed it my self if I would of known the problem. So the way I see it is, they HAD to go back into the engine because the sensors weren't the problem...so since labor was covered, I WOULD say and the point I will argue is that they had to go back into the engine anyways so I will cover the labor time for taken off the tensioner and putting the new one(s) back on. That's my thought since if it wasn't the tensioner and was something else they "fixed" everything would of been covered. He is "suppose" to call today to tell me about everything but I doubt he does as I have been having to call him about it.
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I hope it works out for you
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Thanks, so do we. Not a good start for our live with the expedition lol, but now maybe it will get better than 13-14mpg on the highway. Also can't wait to get it back and do the gotts mod. I think that, maybe a new muffler to open up the exhaust and tint for the front windows is about all we are going to do. Might have to talk her into HID's like our car, or I will just swap them out if we ever sell the car or it goes to our kids.
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This is getting ridiculous at this point. They put on the tensioners, then they put it all back together and they drove it monday apparently...ran good until it got warm and then started acting up the same way. So without letting us know the shop takes it to our local ford dealer because he can't figure out what is wrong with it. Drives it up there and they say nothing is wrong...The guy told them to wait a bit, shut it off and turn it back on. Upon doing so it starts making the rattle, they turn it off suddenly and tow it to the "engine guy" because they didn't want to make anything worse then what it could already be. So now we are paying for the tensioners (150) and half labor at a half rate ($50 an hour) to a total of $400 and thats before its even fixed.
He said if ford comes back and says its something the shop did, then they will cover the repairs and if it comes to it buy a engine for it...if its something the shop didn't do then the owner is "suppose" to call and let us know what it is and if we want to fix it or not
He said if ford comes back and says its something the shop did, then they will cover the repairs and if it comes to it buy a engine for it...if its something the shop didn't do then the owner is "suppose" to call and let us know what it is and if we want to fix it or not
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