2018+ Post Pictures Thread!- Lets see those shiny new trucks!

[edizzle]

 

[JExpedition07]

That's what I'm talking about!

 

[J Ski]

NOw the question is, did you drive all the way through that with her?!

 

[edizzle]

Oh yeah! It’s a little creek crossing to get to a friend of ours house. This is on the way out.

 

[NyackRob79]

One thing I'll never understand is lowering an SUV, lifting it can add capability, what does lowering it do lol.

It makes it look like a station wagon on steroids is what!

 

[gtnator]

Are you kidding me?? That is one of the BEST "Expy in action" pictures I have seen. That's what I'm talking about! You could submit that to Ford's marketing department for use in ads. Nice

 

[Scottorama]

Are you kidding me?? That is one of the BEST "Expy in action" pictures I have seen. That's what I'm talking about! You could submit that to Ford's marketing department for use in ads. Nice

In all honesty....its pretty sad that they market this vehicle to the off-roader crowd, but the front air dam is pushing water in what, 3 inches of water? There is no off-road capability for these vehicles, unless you want the first big rock to rip off all the plastic on the front end.

 

[gtnator]

In all honesty....its pretty sad that they market this vehicle to the off-roader crowd, but the front air dam is pushing water in what, 3 inches of water? There is no off-road capability for these vehicles, unless you want the first big rock to rip off all the plastic on the front end.

I respectfully disagree, I don’t think Ford markets this vehicle to the “off-roader crowd”. I believe they market this vehicle to people with large families, who also want comfort on long trips, capability to tow, lots of room, and capability to go light off roading, and capability to go through virtually any bad weather/snow to safely get you home.

I would consider Jeep as marketing to the “off-roader crowd.”



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[Scottorama]

I respectfully disagree, I don’t think Ford markets this vehicle to the “off-roader crowd”. I believe they market this vehicle to people with large families, who also want comfort on long trips, capability to tow, lots of room, and capability to go light off roading, and capability to go through virtually any bad weather/snow to safely get you home.

I would consider Jeep as marketing to the “off-roader crowd.”



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You almost got my point......Drive one of these through 4 inches of snow....and you are going to be pushing snow with that front end. Its not just a Ford issue, all the manufacturers put their air dams down so low now that there are very few vehicles that can drive through 4+ inches of snow and not receive front end damage. Now drive one of these through a road where 5 inches of slushy snow had been driven on and roughed up...and then it dropped below 0 and all the tracks in the now have frozen.....that front end isn't going down that road without receiving some damage. We used to buy SUV to handle the bad snowy weather....the foot deep snow covered roads because they had the clearance and 4 wheel drive to be able to handle anything. Now a full sized SUV is nothing more than a station wagon with 4 wheel drive and no ground clearance.

The reason Expedition, Suburbans, Tahoes, Excursions all became popular were because they were pickups that had room to seat your entire family. They could tow, they had full time 4 wheel drive, and they could go pretty much anywhere. Now to get that same capability you will have to look at someone like Range Rover to get a true SUV type vehicle.

Where I grew up we had 2 vehicles we ran during the winter months, an old Suburban and a Jeep Cherokee. When it snowed it could be days before you would see a snowplow clear the roads. If you wanted to go somewhere we would lock the front hubs on one of the vehicles (most of you youngsters on here probably have no idea what that even means.....), get going as fast as you could and your drove as hard as you could through the snowdrifts to get through them. If you went to slow, you would be shoveling yourself out.

The fronts on these vehicles were still metal back then.....you could hit a snowdrift hard and nothing would happen to the vehicle...the vehicles were designed to handle it.

Now imagine taking out one of these new Expeditions out if the same situation. First snowdrift you hit, you might as well take out the checkbook for $2000-$3000 for the front end damage that's going to happen, as its all plastic up there and the first snow drift will crack it all to hell, and most of it will fall off.

SUV used to mean go anywhere, handle anything type of vehicle. This current version of the Expedition is not an SUV, its a glorified minivan at best.

 

[killaz05]

Is the air dam removable? I know it would be sacrificing MPG if it is removed but I prefer the look without it anyway. I know the Fx4 has a smaller air dam.

 

[gtnator]

I understand your point. And I have noticed this with the 2015+ Suburbans and GM variants. Their air dams are noticeably low. Expy is low too, probably in order to gain better highway gas mileage and also wind stability. I guess the only way to solve the problem you are referring to is to have an electrically adjustable front air dam, or adjustable air shocks. But you would only need this if you were doing some serious off roading, huge rocks, etc.


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[Scottorama]

I understand your point. And I have noticed this with the 2015+ Suburbans and GM variants. Their air dams are noticeably low. Expy is low too, probably in order to gain better highway gas mileage and also wind stability. I guess the only way to solve the problem you are referring to is to have an electrically adjustable front air dam, or adjustable air shocks.


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I will say the Chevy Colorado ZR2 figured it out.....Rip all the plastic off the front end....no air dam, no plastic in front of the tires....high ground clearance all around. If they did the same thing to a Tahoe or Suburban, I would be first in line to buy one. But they won't, so you won't see my buying one either.

 

[gtnator]

I will say the Chevy Colorado ZR2 figured it out.....Rip all the plastic off the front end....no air dam, no plastic in front of the tires....high ground clearance all around. If they did the same thing to a Tahoe or Suburban, I would be first in line to buy one. But they won't, so you won't see my buying one either.

Are either the Expy FX4 or Suburban Z71 good enough for you're needs? Probably not or you would have mentioned it...

 

[Scottorama]

Are either the Expy FX4 or Suburban Z71 good enough? Probably not or you would have mentioned it...

The FX4 package is a joke. At best you might be losing one inch of air dam, and that's only in the center. The ends of the air dam don't change in length, regardless of model. I don't know why they call it a off-road package, its a towing package that includes a somewhat suspicious skid plate.

A true skid place should be installed at an angle, so that when you hit a rock it bounces the front of the car upward and over. The skid place on the Expedition is level, that won't do you a bit of good, other than to bend the front edge of the skidplate when you hit a rock.






Now this is a skid plate. Designed at an angle to slide your vehicle up and over the obstacle......

 

[J Ski]

You almost got my point......Drive one of these through 4 inches of snow....and you are going to be pushing snow with that front end. Its not just a Ford issue, all the manufacturers put their air dams down so low now that there are very few vehicles that can drive through 4+ inches of snow and not receive front end damage. Now drive one of these through a road where 5 inches of slushy snow had been driven on and roughed up...and then it dropped below 0 and all the tracks in the now have frozen.....that front end isn't going down that road without receiving some damage. We used to buy SUV to handle the bad snowy weather....the foot deep snow covered roads because they had the clearance and 4 wheel drive to be able to handle anything. Now a full sized SUV is nothing more than a station wagon with 4 wheel drive and no ground clearance.

The reason Expedition, Suburbans, Tahoes, Excursions all became popular were because they were pickups that had room to seat your entire family. They could tow, they had full time 4 wheel drive, and they could go pretty much anywhere. Now to get that same capability you will have to look at someone like Range Rover to get a true SUV type vehicle.

Where I grew up we had 2 vehicles we ran during the winter months, an old Suburban and a Jeep Cherokee. When it snowed it could be days before you would see a snowplow clear the roads. If you wanted to go somewhere we would lock the front hubs on one of the vehicles (most of you youngsters on here probably have no idea what that even means.....), get going as fast as you could and your drove as hard as you could through the snowdrifts to get through them. If you went to slow, you would be shoveling yourself out.

The fronts on these vehicles were still metal back then.....you could hit a snowdrift hard and nothing would happen to the vehicle...the vehicles were designed to handle it.

Now imagine taking out one of these new Expeditions out if the same situation. First snowdrift you hit, you might as well take out the checkbook for $2000-$3000 for the front end damage that's going to happen, as its all plastic up there and the first snow drift will crack it all to hell, and most of it will fall off.

SUV used to mean go anywhere, handle anything type of vehicle. This current version of the Expedition is not an SUV, its a glorified minivan at best.

Um my expedition easily makes it through a foot of snow no problem, for one. Two, the air dam is removable and @killaz05 it does not change MPG. We had some areas of where I live accumulate 14” last month and my Ex laughed at it. Now granted, it’s lifted but these 18s would have no issue either if they were lifted. Maybe snow would rip off the air dam but I’m not buying that it would cause $3000 in front end damage. Unless said owner decided to get stupid and try to go out in 1-2’ anyways.
This looks off-road capable to me

 

[Scottorama]

The only reason the air dam is on there is for MPG. If you take it off, your going to lose a couple MPG.

And yes, If you spend $1000's to lift your truck, then yes, you won't face the same clearance issues the standard factory models face.... not sure what that proves?

Look, I am cool too and can post a pic of a vehicle I don't own that could actually handle off road conditions like a true SUV should. Still isn't a stock factory Expedition......But if they made a Raptor Expedition, I would then consider it worthy of the off-road....

 

[Dorzak]

Doesn't the FX4 option replace the air dam with a front skid plate?

 

[Dorzak]

But if they made a Raptor Expedition, I would then consider it worthy of the off-road....

Why not? They have announced a Raptor edition when the Ranger comes back.

 

[J Ski]

The only reason the air dam is on there is for MPG. If you take it off, your going to lose a couple MPG.

And yes, If you spend $1000's to lift your truck, then yes, you won't face the same clearance issues the standard factory models face.... not sure what that proves?

Look, I am cool too and can post a pic of a vehicle I don't own that could actually handle off road conditions like a true SUV should. Still isn't a stock factory Expedition......But if they made a Raptor Expedition, I would then consider it worthy of the off-road....

You telling me mine is not off road capable?

 

[J Ski]