2020 Expedition up in flames

[mwl001]

If it was an electrical issue, maybe rodents chewed though a wire harness and when it got warm under the hood the wires shorted out? So many questions before I blame anyone. They have been know to chew rubber hoses as well.

Exactly. Again, this is tragic and unfortunate. A rare occurrence that causes a catastrophic fire can happen to a brand new car or an old one. It just doesn’t fall under “warranty claim” territory unfortunately.

 

[Going_Going_Gone]

Not to promote a conspiracy theory, and I don't know what all or how data is transmitted from the vehicle through the Ford Pass Ap. If it can be transmitted to your phone, it goes through some network so there might be a way that some or all of the final information could have been archived. If Ford serves as the intermediary; they likely wouldn't pass up an opportunity to retain this data under the "guise" of R&D/Product Improvement...or warranty denial.

 

[99WhiteC5Coupe]

Exactly. Again, this is tragic and unfortunate. A rare occurrence that causes a catastrophic fire can happen to a brand new car or an old one. It just doesn’t fall under “warranty claim” territory unfortunately.

I agree.

With total and catastrophic destruction of the vehicle - there is no way to determine if a part failed, causing the fire and destruction.

There are too many possibilities; animal damage, road damage (causing a fluid leak and fire), modification of the engine or other components, intentional damage by an owner or a nefarious person, etc.

 

[Lou Hamilton]

To each his own but 70k is still expensive. Especially when a fully loaded (and really not the same) but highly rated kia telluride is 42-50k, it is a lot. And the quality ford was known for over the last 3 to 10 years is what I was hoping for.

Guess I should put it this way, does a telluride have the same exterior size or interior volume, or can it tow the same, no. But that's a relatively small amount of the cost these days, the technology, software, systems are a huge part, and so much of that is the same. In fact, many of these companies use the same suppliers for all the peripherals, think Takata. But we still need build quality and low manufacturing tolerances.

Trust me, I invested a crap ton into this thing and continue to do so, I just don't want to lose more than I normally would...

Just saying.

A Telluride is more inline with a Explorer, which is around $56k for a Platinum.

Large SUV that would be less cost would be an Armada. I looked at a fully loaded one and they were will to sell it for around $55. I just thought it was old tech and did not fit all my needs, especially towing.


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[5280tunage]

As I said, I get it wasn't apples to apples, the point was merely to highlight how so much of these vehicles share the same underlying tech. It's how it's all put together that often matters most. But speaking of others, anyone see the re-recall for Hyundai Tucson's? A faulty solder effectively in one of the onboard computers is causing multiple engine fires. The company is telling folks to park them outdoors until they get the recall done. Oddly, instead of fixing the computer, they are simply putting in a fuse that will blow faster/fast enough to prevent a fire should the solder corrode enough to arc... Seems like a pretty crappy fix.

 

[Vipersinu2]

Hire a lawyer and a investigator, The UAW worker probally messed up something.

Their far from perfect, hence the 7000 f-150 trucks waiting to get re-looked before they can be sold.

It is not your faut.

I wonder if the wires shorted out going across the frame for the battery.

At least you stopped the sunroof from rattling. Lol

 

[Soliyou]

I am very glad that everyone is OK.

I’ve seen several car fires on highways over the past years. Many of them are newer cars.

I keep a fire extinguisher in our road trip car.

 

[Thunderbirdsport]

I keep a fire extinguisher in our road trip car.

Take it from someone who had a Thunderbird catch fire while I was in it....a fire extinguisher in EVERY car is not just a good idea...it's a damned great one. Even if it isn't enough to keep the car from becoming a total loss, it could save a life. In my case it kept my 'Bird from being completely wasted.

 

[Soliyou]

Take it from someone who had a Thunderbird catch fire while I was in it....a fire extinguisher in EVERY car is not just a good idea...it's a damned great one. Even if it isn't enough to keep the car from becoming a total loss, it could save a life. In my case it kept my 'Bird from being completely wasted.

Can’t agree more!

In fact, some countries make it mandatory to have a fire extinguisher in the car. It gets checked every year with the annual inspection.

 

[5280tunage]

Sounds like a boat inspection ha ha.

 

[StealthyBulldog]

I wouldn't expect Ford to have done or been interested at all at this point. Not until there's some way of showing even the remote possibility of something faulty. It's obviously horrible to have happened, and I'm thankful everyone is safe, but as mentioned, for litigious reasons they wouldn't show an interest. There are SO many possible reasons, as mentioned rodents, maybe the mechanic doing the PDI left an oily rag in the engine bay, maybe they drove over a piece of plastic that got in and melted on the exhaust near the front, the list goes on.

 

[Dice Roll]

Not to defend Ford against raising more concern or investigation. A $70k vehicle is not expensive for newer cars these days - particularly for the size and included features in what you're getting. Hold your horses. Although unfortunate, this is the first and isolated incident in a 3 year run. Not including shared platform of the F150, the highest selling vehicle on the planet, Ford's production numbers are in your favor.

Also just because it's expensive doesn't mean it's giving to be perfect without risk...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.au...51/mclaren-senna-720s-570gt-fire-risk-recall/

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a...ine-fires-including-ultra-rare-veneno-models/

And not just exotics. Mass GM recall recently:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nitalemonlaw.com/gm-recall-millions-brake-fire-concerns/amp/

average vehicle sale is like 35k, so yes it’s an expensive vehicle without question.

 

[carymccarr]

average vehicle sale is like 35k, so yes it’s an expensive vehicle without question.

Not that it matters because no vehicle should explode, uncontrolled, into flames. Not a $49K (base) expy or the “average” priced vehicle at $38k.

 

[mwl001]

Not that it matters because no vehicle should explode into flames. Not a $49K (base) expy or the “average” priced vehicle at $38k.

Not ever? I think I get what you are saying but it’s an internal combustion engine.

 

[carymccarr]

Not ever? I think I get what you are saying but it’s an internal combustion engine.

Lol. Fine. Edited for clarity.


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[5280tunage]

Lest we not forgot that quite a few non-internal combustion vehicle process will above $100k have also worked into flames... But I thought Elon was saving the world!

Good thing lithium (which is still far more poisonous than crude oil or petrol) is limitless and the US supplies most of what we need!

 

[JExpedition07]

Holy cow that aluminum melts down I didn’t think about that. Vanished into thin air. Steel usually survives a vehicle fire just the paint burns off. Actually just watched a brand new Kia Soul burn in a Home Depot parking lot last week. It started smoking while parked, off, and unattended and went up into flames. Fireman sprayed some chemical inside and the smoke cloud was absolutely insane.

 

[RockyMtnCliff]

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I think Tommy Boy says it perfectly.

I also have two kids in car seats, guess it's time to do the fire drill. Flying small planes for the last ten years taught me to have a plan, and to put it in action without hesitation.

Stay safe out there.

 

[DCS_express]

Agree with what other people said already. Glad everyone is safe. It's a very unfortunate incident but there are too many unknowns for Ford to take responsibility and any evidence to dispute that just went up in flames or melted away. That is pretty crazy how the aluminum just melts away I hadn't thought of that either.

 

[Dice Roll]

If an expedition burns in the woods and no one is around, will anyone know it was there?