3rd gen Off-road rigs

[Raul Villarreal]

New to the forum and im curious. How many of y'all have those 3rd gen off road rigs. Those rigs with lifts and the bars and anything else you have taste for. Let's see em!!! Mine is stock as hell for now with tons of mods in the near future. Just looking for some inspiration and ideas.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

New to the forum and im curious. How many of y'all have those 3rd gen off road rigs. Those rigs with lifts and the bars and anything else you have taste for. Let's see em!!! Mine is stock as hell for now with tons of mods in the near future. Just looking for some inspiration and ideas.

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Raul, Welcome to the forum. My 17 is mostly stock. I've added LED tail lights, HID bulbs for headlights, and a few pieces of chrome trim.

 

[Raul Villarreal]

Wow. Nice. Lighting is probably going to be one of the first upgrade for me.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Wow. Nice. Lighting is probably going to be one of the first upgrade for me.

There are a number of threads on here about headlight upgrades. You might consider a projector headlight upgrade. Putting LEDs or HIDs in standard reflector headlights is doable but not recommended because of the way they scatter the light and blind oncoming drivers. I had HIDs in my 05 (I know I'm going against my own advice) and they were pretty bright, I had to adjust the headlights down so as not to blind everyone.

 

[Raul Villarreal]

On. Off topic a lil. How do you do that top section that says quote. Sry. This is my first forum.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

On. Off topic a lil. How do you do that top section that says quote. Sry. This is my first forum.

Lower right hand edge of the frame you want to quote you'll see three buttons, Like + Multi, (which I still haven't figured out) and Quote.

Just click the quote button for the post you want to quote and it will put it in the reply window.

 

[Raul Villarreal]

Lower right hand edge of the frame you want to quote you'll see three buttons, Like + Multi, (which I still haven't figured out) and Quote.

Just click the quote button for the post you want to quote and it will put it in the reply window.

Ok. I think i got it.

 

[chuck s]

I had the "off road" option on my '07. Had some shielding under the engine and transmission and tubular running boards that rusted just looking at them. Not sure what else was there. Suspension was stock height.

-- Chuck

 

[NevadaGeo]

Welcome Raul! My '17 limited is stock as well but as an exploration geologist, I use it for work off-road. I have used F-150s with the FX4 package for over 30 years, but recently decided to get the Expedition. It performs like a dream off-road and have never been concerned with getting in or out. 4-Lo with the lockers is awesome going up steep grades (where the tingle in your stomach is felt) and is amazing.

If I were to do some very heavy duty off-road, a full set of skid plates would be a good idea. A lift? No, since it destroys the highway MPG and stability both off- and on-road. Good luck and let us know what you do.

 

[chuck s]

Body lifts still leave the axles within an inch or two from where they were. Independent is better than beam axles but they're still close to the ground. Gotta pick tracks carefully still. Hubs and brakes still down there in the water and mud as well. But half tracks are not good for daily drivers.

-- Chuc

 

[bobmbx]

Body lifts still leave the axles within an inch or two from where they were. Independent is better than beam axles but they're still close to the ground. Gotta pick tracks carefully still. Hubs and brakes still down there in the water and mud as well. But half tracks are not good for daily drivers.

-- Chuc

If your axles are in the mud, you're doing it wrong.
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[Adieu]

Wheels and tires could be a good place to start

 

[Muddy Bean]

Welcome Raul! My '17 limited is stock as well but as an exploration geologist, I use it for work off-road. I have used F-150s with the FX4 package for over 30 years, but recently decided to get the Expedition. It performs like a dream off-road and have never been concerned with getting in or out. 4-Lo with the lockers is awesome going up steep grades (where the tingle in your stomach is felt) and is amazing.

If I were to do some very heavy duty off-road, a full set of skid plates would be a good idea. A lift? No, since it destroys the highway MPG and stability both off- and on-road. Good luck and let us know what you do.

What lockers? You have lockers on your Expedition?


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[LokiWolf]

What lockers? You have lockers on your Expedition?


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He doesn’t, it is Stock. The rear is an LSD.

 

[supermitch]

I've yet to see a good off-road build for a 3rd gen, but this is the best I've seen: http://www.stage3motorsports.com/Stage-3s-2012-Expedition-5-4L-Project-Truck.html

 

[Muddy Bean]

Actually, I would say this is the best I’ve seen:



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[Muddy Bean]

So question, do our third gen 4x4 trucks all have the “Control Trac” mimicking front and rear diff locking system? The software power split appears to mimic actual lockers once it’s engaged...which if that’s the case, is pretty wild. My triple locked land cruiser was a beast when locked. I’d like to see what my truck can do once the software “lockers” are engaged...


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[LokiWolf]

So question, do our third gen 4x4 trucks all have the “Control Trac” mimicking front and rear diff locking system? The software power split appears to mimic actual lockers once it’s engaged...which if that’s the case, is pretty wild. My triple locked land cruiser was a beast when locked. I’d like to see what my truck can do once the software “lockers” are engaged...


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It is NOT equivalent to a locker. It works well but is not anyway close to the mechanical grip an actual locker has. It uses software and the ABS controllers to brake the wheel with no traction to send power to the wheel with it. It is pretty common practice.

In most snow and slippery conditions it does better than my previous lifted F250 on 35’s with a rear Locker.

 

[Muddy Bean]

The reason I ask is I was reading a blog article written by the guy who owns the above truck and he said he did a comparison from a hummer and a Jeep with lockers and the Expedition performed identically to the locked rigs....if its true that there are no rotational differences between the axles in the front and rear when Control Trac is engaged, then I would think it would indeed behave just like a locker is intended to behave... what are your thoughts? I’m curious and want to stretch my truck now


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[supermitch]

That truck is nice. First time seeing it! Do the slides / side-steps for the 3rd gens match the mounting pattern for similar trucks, e.g. Raptor or F-150?