5.0 twin turbo coyote??

[10sne1]

Why not build this? an upgrade in a 3/4 ton Expy towing machine! Could be the replacement to the 6.2?

 

[JExpedition07]

Couldn’t plow with it, intercoolers. It would get dismal fuel economy compared to the 6.2 and 7.3, heat dissipation wouldn’t be as good. I could go on.

If they made a 3/4 ton Expy the 6.2 and 7.3 are much better suited to the job. Big cast iron blocks with big bores. The 5.0 is in the same vehicle category as the EcoBoost...they aren’t made for sever duty.

 

[Thunderbirdsport]

I'd rather have a 7.3 swap with a supercharger and FMIC. Keep the 8 lug stuff, that would get very costly trying to make an 8 lug IRS that would work with the existing ABS/trac control, etc.


The 7.3 is easily doable, as it will bolt to the existing trans...not sure about mounts, but given the space between the rad and the front of the 5.4, I'd guess it would fit as it's designed to be used with the Modular setups.
I see by your sig that you have the ecoboost truck...no idea on those, I've just never messed around with, nor read the finer details, etc.

Yeah, the 5.0 is a great package for towing, but if you truly want 3/4 ton comparable stuff, may be better to start with an Excursion.

I plan to get a V10 Excursion this fall and over the winter do a 7.3 swap. I wanted to gt a diesel, but...damn, are those holding their value. I'd rather find a lower mileage gas truck with great body and interior to do the swap to. Throw a blower or even a pair of twins on it down the road...more power and torque than anything. Of course gas will be 4 dollars/gal in 6 months, so probably just wishful thinking at this point... :-/

 

[JExpedition07]

The 7.3 doesn’t share anything with the modular engines, nor does the 6.2 Boss. They are big bore animals, modular engines all have small bores and narrow bore spacing.

 

[shane_th_ee]

Why not build this? an upgrade in a 3/4 ton Expy towing machine! Could be the replacement to the 6.2?

Because forced induction motors get hot. Modern computational fluid dynamics (CFD) modeling and metallurgy allows the engine designer to manage the additional heat. But, unless I'm mistaken, the 5.0 was not designed to deal with the extra heat and would, therefore, suffer the same longevity problems that plagued the forced induction motors of yesteryear...

 

[10sne1]

You all are smart! Thanks

 

[Thunderbirdsport]

The 7.3 doesn’t share anything with the modular engines, nor does the 6.2 Boss. They are big bore animals, modular engines all have small bores and narrow bore spacing.

I'm talking about trans bolt patterns, and possible mount locations. I DO know for sure the 7.3 has the same bell bolt pattern as any other modular engine.

 

[JExpedition07]

Ford posted this today in response to comments on the new Raptor release on Instagram......This pretty much solidifies the Raptor R Rumor. Here comes your forced induction V8.

 

[JExpedition07]

So the low down at Ford is the standard Raptor we all know will have the 3.5 EcoBoost and the new Raptor R will have a V8. Likely the 5.2 Predator from the GT-500 which throws down 760 horsepower. But also recall Ford has acknowledged they are working on the 6.X project (a new pushrod based off the 7.3)....so this is a mystery

 

[edizzle]

it would be incredibly easy to put a forced induction 5.0 coyote in an Expy. Hennessey and similar groups could absolutely do this no question. it would make one bad ***** too!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lou Hamilton]

it would be incredibly easy to put a forced induction 5.0 coyote in an Expy. Hennessey and similar groups could absolutely do this no question. it would make one bad ***** too!!!!!!!!!

If you have a spare $25,000+ laying around, maybe you could pick up the 5.2L GT-500 engine and fit it into the Expedition. Now THAT would make on bad *****.

 

[Thunderbirdsport]

I'd rather do that to a 1st or 2nd Gen Lightning...

I don't want the full-tilt-boogie horsepower in a 3+ ton family boat dragger, but a little go-fast, turn hard truck, hell yes.

My birthday is in August, hint hint LOL

 

[shane_th_ee]

If you have a spare $25,000+ laying around, maybe you could pick up the 5.2L GT-500 engine and fit it into the Expedition. Now THAT would make on bad *****

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I think it’d more likely make an interesting pile of broken transfer case and differential parts.

 

[Thunderbirdsport]

Kinda makes me wonder what the weakest link, driveline-wise, that the Expedition has.....

Surely the transmission is pretty robust (maybe not 760hp/625 ft-lb robust) but I'm sure the diff would give up before the trans or x-case...

Then again, the Expy got a bigger diff, yes? As in, something bigger/stronger than the old 8.8?
(I ought to know this, but honestly didn't pay the diff any mind when I did my struts..)

 

[Lou Hamilton]

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I think it’d more likely make an interesting pile of broken transfer case and differential parts.

Then wait for the parts list of the 2022 Raptor-R to see if it will use the engine and what new part numbers for the other components will be.

 

[JExpedition07]

Probably will have the TR-9070 automatic transmission like the GT-500

 

[joethefordguy]

I have got to get new glasses. I read the headline as "
" 5.0 twin turbo motorcycle "

 

[joethefordguy]

... The 5.0 is in the same vehicle category as the EcoBoost...they aren’t made for sever duty.

that's probably the single most useful piece of information about these engines I have ever read. Basically, they're expensive toys.
thank you very much.

 

[joethefordguy]

if you're gonna swap an engine in, why not a Cummins 12V?

 

[edizzle]

Probably will have the TR-9070 automatic transmission like the GT-500

LOL, calling that an automatic is a little non descriptive. like calling Tom Brady a regular old quarterback!! It is a DCT, and while technically an automatic, it is a whole other beast in its own category. And the Tremec TR-9070 is a spectacular example of a DCT.