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and0r

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are fancy cars really impressive, or do only idiots think they are impressive?
chinese mystery, friends :)
 

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Most of the jeeps aren't very powerful, so they aren't competing with any ponies, so I doubt they'll push it too far.

Ill have to disagree - our '12 Wrangler Sport rips...its 3.6L produces nearly 290 hp and while its heavy by most standards at around 3800 lbs it hauls ass!

even in the unlimited (4 door, 4200 lb) trim it performs very well
 
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Not even close.
And that expedition listed for over $72,000. The dealer should have taken care of the problem, admitted their error instead of jerking me around.
maybe you lost the sarcasm in my post!!! no shit they are wildly different. thats what makes the op so funny. and surely you didnt pay sticker!!!
 

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Ill have to disagree - our '12 Wrangler Sport rips...its 3.6L produces nearly 290 hp and while its heavy but most standards at around 3800 lbs it hauls ass! even in the unlimited (4 door, 4200 lb) trim it performs very well

I'm impressed they moved up from the 4.0L after what seemed like 25 years. lol
 

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I'm impressed they moved up from the 4.0L after what seemed like 25 years. lol

the 4.0L (I6) was a dog (at 129-200 hp).
the 3.8 v6 ('07-11) was no improvement over the I6.

the 3.8 is down nearly 100 hp compared to the 2012+ 3.6 (v6)...
the 3.6 is a tried and true (pentastar van) motor.
 
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