Tire/wheel vibration all corners

[yancey101]

Hello, I just bought a 23 Expedition Limited. Immediately I noticed that the wheel had a vibration in 2WD. I chalked it up to the vehicle sitting on the lot for a long period of time in cold weather or the factory missing the balance. Both issues easily remedied? Fast forward two weeks and a rebalance, still vibrates. This was referred to the warrantee folks. After measurements were taken they determined it wasn't the tires that are General Grabbers. The service manager then had me try a 24 for a test drive. The 24 and another 23 did the exact same thing. His remedy for this issue was that it was common with the Expedition and all of them do that. All had the same manufacturer tire. I even offered to buy another brand of tire at their cost. His response was that even the F-150's do that. Has anyone had the same experience? And does anyone know how to appeal to a regional manager of sorts? This shaking is getting on my last nerve!

 

[99WhiteC5Coupe]

Hello, I just bought a 23 Expedition Limited. Immediately I noticed that the wheel had a vibration in 2WD. I chalked it up to the vehicle sitting on the lot for a long period of time in cold weather or the factory missing the balance. Both issues easily remedied? Fast forward two weeks and a rebalance, still vibrates. This was referred to the warrantee folks. After measurements were taken they determined it wasn't the tires that are General Grabbers. The service manager then had me try a 24 for a test drive. The 24 and another 23 did the exact same thing. His remedy for this issue was that it was common with the Expedition and all of them do that. All had the same manufacturer tire. I even offered to buy another brand of tire at their cost. His response was that even the F-150's do that. Has anyone had the same experience? And does anyone know how to appeal to a regional manager of sorts? This shaking is getting on my last nerve!

Was the shaking present during your test drive, or did it appear later after driving the vehicle for a while after purcahse?

 

[Calidad]

They definitely don’t vibrate and yes junk tires can definitely do that!

 

[Polo08816]

Hello, I just bought a 23 Expedition Limited. Immediately I noticed that the wheel had a vibration in 2WD. I chalked it up to the vehicle sitting on the lot for a long period of time in cold weather or the factory missing the balance. Both issues easily remedied? Fast forward two weeks and a rebalance, still vibrates. This was referred to the warrantee folks. After measurements were taken they determined it wasn't the tires that are General Grabbers. The service manager then had me try a 24 for a test drive. The 24 and another 23 did the exact same thing. His remedy for this issue was that it was common with the Expedition and all of them do that. All had the same manufacturer tire. I even offered to buy another brand of tire at their cost. His response was that even the F-150's do that. Has anyone had the same experience? And does anyone know how to appeal to a regional manager of sorts? This shaking is getting on my last nerve!

They definitely don’t vibrate and yes junk tires can definitely do that!

A new car should NOT vibrate like that... most likely junk tires.

 

[Fastcar]

Have them do a road force balance

 

[yancey101]

Was the shaking present during your test drive, or did it appear later after driving the vehicle for a while after purcahse?

Yes, but I just chalked it up to the factory balancing.

 

[ROBERT BONNER]

16 years ago I was responsible for most Ford Truck and SUV warranty, among other things, including tire warranty (which was just about my greatest headache). It really sounds like you are experiencing classic tire flat spotting. My experience then was that most brands other than Michelins and some of the very high end speed rated tires were subject to flat spotting. Generally, the heavier the vehicle and the longer it is parked, the more severe the flat spotting.

Most times the vehicle can be "driven" out of the condition each time that it occurs. The amount of miles and speeds required may be more than your typical driving cycle allows. Personally, I have a '22 F150 that still has the OEM Wranglers on it. If it sits more than a few days, it will take 4 or 5 miles at 55 mph + to lose the shake. 16 years ago....Generals seemed to be the worst. On some SuperDuty's at the time it would take 25-30 miles at free way speeds to smooth them out after a few days parked....not exactly the words a customer wants to hear.

The reason for the disparity between Michelin and other brands is that Michelin fully cures their tires in the mold, a process that requires them to own and operate many more molds per unit of production due to cycle-time constraints. Other manufactures deliver their tires not fully cured. The curing process can literally take months and years outside of the factory. An uncured tire will migrate rubber ever so slightly around its circumference when parked and supporting a load. Evening the load and centrifugal force will make it more uniform over time while being operated.

I hate to say it. But the only cure besides driving may be a set of Michelins. Back in the day, there were times when the company would spring for a set of Michelins to satisfy a customer - it always worked.

 

[bklynlou]

Same issue with 2024 Expedition Max Dealer says that how the truck drives notting can be fixed

 

[DieselMonk]

My Limited SPP does NOT have a shaking steering wheel. But I did notice that dirt, snow and ice really collect easy inside the 22” rims making mine shake.
Other possible causes: you got a bent rim(s) or a broken cord inside the tire. Sometimes low quality, but brand name tires have the same problem. These are called rejects. Had all of them reasons above over the years.

Tire balancing seems to be a dying art these days. I see so many tires not being balanced correctly by glueing more weights on where they are not supposed to be.

First make sure your rims are straight (I mean absolutely straight by putting them on the balancer and look at inside and outside of the rim while it turns), then check the rubber. If you do get new rubber, put something decent on and get a warranty on it.

 

[SyndicateZ]

Get differnt tires.

I have

Sailun Terramax HLT​

tires on 22" factory rins. They are the quietest tires I have ever experienced and no vibrations at high highway speeds.

I also had Sailun tires installed on my mother in laws Nissan Rougue and they are much quieter and no vibration compared to her previous. I only buy Sailun now and they are very price friendly

 

[bb37]

I only buy Sailun now and they are very price friendly

Probably because they are made in China or Vietnam.

 

[SyndicateZ]

Get fiffernt tires. Thats what

Probably because they are made in China or Vietnam.

Indeed! Made in China. Will prolly get more expensive soon due to the impending Tarrifs

 

[Ugh_J]

The service manager then had me try a 24 for a test drive. The 24 and another 23 did the exact same thing. His remedy for this issue was that it was common with the Expedition and all of them do that. All had the same manufacturer tire. I even offered to buy another brand of tire at their cost. His response was that even the F-150's do that.

That's just ridiculous. My 2020 doesn't do this on 20" OEM tires. My 2015 F-150 did it with the factory 20" trash tires but was completely solved when I swapped them for 18" Michelin Defender LTXs and non-Ford wheels. My parents' 2022 Expedition Max doesn't do this on 18" Michelins and didn't do it on the 22" OEMs. "They all do it" is just maddening. Turbo wastegate dogbone link rattle, plugs falling out of the 110V point, moonroof rattle, rear spoiler freezing and damaging the roof, excessive battery drain, the list goes on. Do they just let anyone work as Service Managers or "Customer Care Specialists" at dealers these days?

 

[Left Coast Geek]

my 2019 didn't do this on its original half worn 22" wheels, and it doesn't do it on the F150 18" wheels I have now with 'new' Wrangler Territory OE mall terrain tires. The 18's were new when I mounted them a year and 12000 miles ago.

 

[East-TN]

Yeah, new tires sounds like the best thing you can do for your ride and peace of mind. Go to a reputable tire shop and get some good to great tires (Michelin, etc.)

 

[Left Coast Geek]

life is too short to run cheap tires, but I live where there's lots of gnarly mountain roads, a blowout on a corner could drop you down into a 1000 foot gulch filled with 150 ft tall trees. I plan on running BF Goodrich KO3's when I wear out the Wranglers that came on my wheels for those occasional offroad adventures.