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chadly

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The rear bags on my wifes 01 expy are shot. Cant decide if I should convert to springs or get new air struts. I did a conversion on my Mark VIII, and wish I had kept the air. What are your thoughts/opinions? How hard is the swap?

Thanks for the help.

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Well i had the same problem but i stuck with air. I drove one that had a coil spring conversion and it does nothing for you if you are towing anything. I have now takin mine all out and went with leaf springs but i am doing that because i am putting a big lift and making into a toy. I have a set of air bags for sale for the rear that came off of a 2000 expy 2wd. If you are interested hit me back i will make a good deal. $100 for set and you pay shipping.
 

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conversion...air will go out again and theres no way to know exactly if other parts are bad/going bad...i was told once air goes out to do conversion...you'll be like a doctor treating a seek patient...everything's wrong
 

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Advance auto parts has the bags and the conversion kit. If you look at them, they are similarlly priced. The kit is slightly harder to install, but the air system will eventually have another part of the system fail.

If you plan on keeping it, do the conversion.
 

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Are you sure the bags are bad? It could be something else in the system. What exactly was it doing or is doing now?
 

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I have the strut master conversion in mine. I love them. Less hassle and RELIABLE!
 

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There are a couple of places to check carefully and you may fix your suspension for little money. There is a coupler in the engine compartment, just over the steering shaft that goes bad. They will crack, leak and finally burst, with a loud bang. There is a pressure relief valve in the rear, just above the height sensor that is hard to check for leaks.
I had a problem with my Navigator for about a year before I found the valve was my problem. The coupler up front broke with a bang and I got one from Ford for about $28.00, I was checking everywhere in the system for leaks and finally, in desperation, I removed the pressure relief valve and replaced it with a brass "T" that I had made up for use on my Mark VIII. Now with the "T" in place my suspension works as it was designed to and stays level. Before the "T" fix I had to put the truck in 4X4 low and air up the suspension and it would stay up for a couple of weeks before getting soft and starting to sag.
I have a H.D. 26 foot toy hauler and my suspension now allows me use it with no problems. If i had converted my truck to coils it would be a tail dragger with the trailer on it and I would be looking at expensive add-ons to get the truck to be level with the trailer attached.
You have a very good suspension system in your truck and if you ever want to do more than just cruising on the paved roads with no load in or on the truck you should find and fix the problem.
I converted my Mark VIII to coils from a T-Bird SuperCoupe before there were kits available and I am satisfied with it, but not really happy. I never carry much of a load in it so it always rides level. I too wish I had kept at it and found the problem(s) it had and fixed them, if for no other reason than the air suspension is a unique and superior system when compared with coil or leaf spring suspensions. For example; if you go off road and put your truck in 4X4 low the truck will raise up about 1.5 inches for additional ground clearance and if you ever pull a heavy trailer, you hook up with the suspension off, hook up and then turn the suspension back on you can see the truck raise up to normal driving height which is much safer than having it sitting low in the rear with a trailer and it is also unsafe in that position.
In any case it is your truck and you should do whatever you feel is best for you and your family.
Sorry for the long post, but I hope it helps you make your decision.
 

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If you feel that you must do the coil spring conversion you will get the best price and most help from Eddie Spinks at American Air suspension. He also remanufactures the air compressors and has most of the parts needed to repair Ford's air suspension systems.
 

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I recently switched from air to coil and I wish I stayed with the air. Only because I tow a lot, I should drive a Super Duty for how much I do. The ride is great with the coils but it sags with a load on the hitch or in the back.
 
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I am positive its the passenger side bag. Air is flowing out almost as fast as its going in, and I can put my hand on it and stop the air where the hole is.

I dealt with Eddie when I did the lincoln. Great guy, but I am looking for a cheaper solution now. I read online that the Moog springs, part number CC80841 will work also and at ~$85 a pair they are more in my price range. Can anyone confirm they will work?

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/953696-85-or-less-rear-air-to-coil-suspension-conversion.html

P.S. I like the way the forum looks!
 
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You could just go to a Pick-N-Pull salvage yard and get a pair of used rear springs from an Expedition for about $20.00 each. Then get a pair of coil over Monroe shocks from a parts store, I think the right ones are for an old 1st. Gen. Bronco, Rears.
 
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