Can I add CCD or take it off?

[jjscsix]

Adding the CCD would require someone getting into the ECU to program them in, and who knows what wiring exits. I agree with others that tires can make a significant difference.

Good luck.

 

[Mr Big]

Adding the CCD would require someone getting into the ECU to program them in, and who knows what wiring exits. I agree with others that tires can make a significant difference.

Good luck.

There's a lot more to CCD than just programming. Many components would have to be changed out. Probably better off trading for one with CCD.
I will say this, for me, CCD is well worth the extra paid. That in combination with my Michelin Defender 22s, I get a great ride. I will say on wavey paved roads it does get the floating effect. But changing to tow or sport mode does away with it as it tightens everything up

 

[LanceExp2025]

Hi moonlitj:

We just bought a new 2024 Expedition MAX Limited w/ HD Trailer Tow a week ago (and love it) but it DOES NOT have CCD either. (wish it did). This 2024 is a replacement for our 2012 Expedition Limited and it definitely rides a little rougher and with only slightly more road noise than our old 2012 did. I was thinking that it was the 22" wheels and shorter tire sidewalls (lower profile tires) on the 2024 vs the 20" wheels w/ Michelins on the 2012. When we got home with the 2024, I drove them up side-by-side and started measuring things. Surprisingly, the 22" sidewall at 4-1/2" tall (measured from rim to top of tread) was only 1/2" shorter than the 20" Michelin tire at 5" tall (measured the same way). That's NOT much difference, it seems to me, so shouldn't affect the ride quality that much.

I also read another thread on this Expedition forum about this "rougher ride" and a "technical tire professional guy" was saying that the larger diameter 22's are actually easier rolling thus smoother riding because they will smooth out road imperfection because of their larger footprint on the road surface which bridges road surface imperfections better. That makes sense to me. The Ford Dealer salesman also said that the rougher ride was a result of Ford beefing up the load carrying rating on HD Trailer Tow package Expeditions because Ford has become the #1 SUV for towing (highest load ratings), worldwide, thus caters to those towing needs, suspension wise. That seems logical to me, too.

So, I don't know the real answer here and I am not willing to toss our beautiful 22" Expy wheels, just yet, until I know for sure. Our 2024 Expedition MAX did come w/ Pirelli Scorpion tires and, when we change, we will be going w/ Michelins again. I am not a fan of Pirelli's but not from ride quality reasons but from their notorious fast tread wear and almost non-existent warranty. Our 2012 Expedition also had Pirelli Scorpion Tires, when new, and when we put 4 new Michelins on it at 25,000 miles, my wife said it was so smooth and drove like a "completely different car". We both loved how those Michelins rode and handled! They lasted just under 50,000 miles so we put a second set of Michelins on the 2012 at 74,000 miles. Sold it w/ 91,000 miles. All good there! So, that's my 2 cents worth of experience here, Lance

 

[Mr Big]

I think you have to order or find a limited with CCD, but it comes standard in the Platinum model.
What 22" tires are on the 2024 Limited? Some brands give a terrible ride when it comes to tires.
Michelin Defenders are the smoothest riding tire, IMHO. When I change my Platinum to sport mode, the ride is still smooth, and sport mode really tightens up the suspension. I would leave it in the mode, except I don't like the shift pattern it creates and the way it holds the gears. I understand why, but I just don't like it.
With that said, since you just got it, you may be able to get the sealer to swap the tires for Michelins.

 

[GixxerJasen]

I think you have to order or find a limited with CCD, but it comes standard in the Platinum model.
What 22" tires are on the 2024 Limited? Some brands give a terrible ride when it comes to tires.
Michelin Defenders are the smoothest riding tire, IMHO. When I change my Platinum to sport mode, the ride is still smooth, and sport mode really tightens up the suspension. I would leave it in the mode, except I don't like the shift pattern it creates and the way it holds the gears. I understand why, but I just don't like it.
With that said, since you just got it, you may be able to get the sealer to swap the tires for Michelins.

I'll never for the life of me understand why manufacturers have to put things into "Modes." Or if they do, why there's no custom mode. Let me have it accelerate like eco, shift like normal, but suspension like sport dang it.

 

[aksarben]

I have a 2021 Lmtd w/HD tow, non CCD and switched to 20's and Michelin Defender's from the stock 22's and Pirellis. Personally, I "think" the ride is improved, so that is what really matters. Either way, I personally didn't like the look, weight or cost of tires for 22's. Selling the stock wheels and tires only left me a delta of about $400 for my new set up. The way I look at is I got a new set of Defenders for about $400.

Note, if you go to 20's, you can no longer use the stock 18" spare due to the difference in rotations per mile. So I bought a cheap used wheel from a salvage yard and put a cheaper matching tire on it. So that added about $275 in cost.

 

[bb37]

Or if they do, why there's no custom mode.

Dodge Durango SRT (392 HEMI V-8) has several drive modes: Auto, Eco, Track, Sport, Tow, Snow, and Custom. All of those modes, except Eco, allow you to customize some of the settings including transmission shift points street/sport/track, paddle shifters on/off, AWD rear bias 70/65/60/50%, stability control street/sport/track, suspension street/sport/track, and steering street/sport/track.

 

[GixxerJasen]

But it's a Dodge!

 

[bb37]

But it's a Dodge!

And, it sounds wonderful! I put 15,000 miles on an R/T in 18 months. No issues. Fantasized over the Hellcat (710 HP), but didn't want to pay $110k. That's BMW or Mercedes territory.

 

[jjscsix]

There's a lot more to CCD than just programming. Many components would have to be changed out. Probably better off trading for one with CCD.
I will say this, for me, CCD is well worth the extra paid. That in combination with my Michelin Defender 22s, I get a great ride. I will say on wavey paved roads it does get the floating effect. But changing to tow or sport mode does away with it as it tightens everything up

I guess i just thought it was obvious that you had to add the parts

 

[Mr Big]

I guess i just thought it was obvious that you had to add the parts

Obvious to some, not to others