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Instead of getting ***** for $400, has anyone tried a catch can like this on their ecoboost 3.5L? Seems like a solid alternative for $50. If not, what's your reasoning? The principals of a catch can are ridiculously simple. Too simple for $400 imo.

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Look at JLT for a great alternative.
 

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Some catch can systems offer a third port on the can to receive vacuum from turbo inlet pipes when there is a loss of intake manifold ported vacuum.
 
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Some catch can systems offer a third port on the can to receive vacuum from turbo inlet pipes when there is a loss of intake manifold ported vacuum.

Look at JLT for a great alternative.
Thanks guys. I checked out the JLT can. It looks good, but they don't show the inside of the can to see if there's any baffling. Also, I don't see where that one is any nicer than the $50 one I posted above. It's $139. Not trying to be super cheap, but not trying to throw $90 away either. Is there something nicer about it that I'm not seeing?
As far as the ones with a vacuum port, I've only seen that on the $400+ jobbies.
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JLT does have media inside to return the oil to a liquid form and collect it (before it enters your engine). The advantage of the JLT over what you posted above is the JLT is plug-n-play...it has the correct connectors for a simple install.
 
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JLT does have media inside to return the oil to a liquid form and collect it (before it enters your engine). The advantage of the JLT over what you posted above is the JLT is plug-n-play...it has the correct connectors for a simple install.
Nice. That might be the way to go then. Thanks!
 

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Anyone have pictures of these catch cans installed? And thoughts of catch can/ oil separators, are they not the same?

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Anyone have pictures of these catch cans installed? And thoughts of catch can/ oil separators, are they not the same?

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Lots of pics on-line including the sites that sell them. There's a ton of videos showing the installs of the $400 ones too. Most of the info/pics are for the F150, but near as I can tell they're pretty close to identical in most cases.
 

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Anyone have pictures of these catch cans installed? And thoughts of catch can/ oil separators, are they not the same?

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Here’s a pic of the JLT installed on my 2017:

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Thanks for pictures. I'm gonna look into adding one on my 2017. Have you guys been collecting much oil out of these? I have one on my Mustang but haven't really put enough miles on it yet to even bother draining it. I went with a Moroso, that has a drain port on it which I thought was a nice feature.595e410ea7946f0a54b096f308b4d4a9.jpg664c69ca12afc70c4f494df4eaaa754b.jpg

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Not to be a dick guys, but I'm trying to find out more thoughts on the cheaper alternatives. I don't want to see my post get derailed too bad... Thanks for understanding.
 

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Not to be a dick guys, but I'm trying to find out more thoughts on the cheaper alternatives. I don't want to see my post get derailed too bad... Thanks for understanding.
My thought on the $50 can that you show is this.... it looks like it has the same ball valve that’s used on my RXP Can, which is a quality valve, and the rest of the cans parts look to be ok also as far as quality goes. What the kit is lacking is the factory ford hose connectors that make a clean install. I definitely think it’s better than installing nothing so you should buy it and try it. If you want the factory connectors you could order them from Ford and probably still be way under budget! Post pics and results when you are done.
 
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My thought on the $50 can that you show is this.... it looks like it has the same ball valve that’s used on my RXP Can, which is a quality valve, and the rest of the cans parts look to be ok also as far as quality goes. What the kit is lacking is the factory ford hose connectors that make a clean install. I definitely think it’s better than installing nothing so you should buy it and try it. If you want the factory connectors you could order them from Ford and probably still be way under budget! Post pics and results when you are done.
Awesome reply. I appreciate it! I was thinking about making up a cpl hoses like you said too. I'll post up what I end up doing.
 

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Maybe a silly thought, but what do the dealerships think of these? Just wondering as far as warranty issue's? I honestly don't understand why they aren't factory installed.

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Maybe a silly thought, but what do the dealerships think of these? Just wondering as far as warranty issue's? I honestly don't understand why they aren't factory installed.

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Not much the dealerships can bother you for. They can try to deny your claim, but unless they can prove that your issues are a result of the can there's nothing they can do legally.
 

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Great thread. Thanks for the information! Here I thought I was among the few that felt the various catch can kits were highway robbery.

I was sad to find out the Mishimoto kit will not fit the Expedition
 

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Not much the dealerships can bother you for. They can try to deny your claim, but unless they can prove that your issues are a result of the can there's nothing they can do legally.


A Ford dealership CAN deny your bumper-to-bumper or power train warranty for the engine if you modify it with one of these catch cans. They do not have to “prove” anything - other than your modification. A simple photograph would work - which then is entered into their Ford system and a warranty block would show at any USA Ford dealer.

Then, you must file legal action to force them to honor the warranty. When you acknowledge you modified the engine and or its intake / PCV system - you’ll lose.
 

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@99white

Well that's not good news, but thanks for the heads up.

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