do I need to lift my Expo?

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i can do that! sounds funn! haha but they sure do look stuffed. now nvy can do it since he has a 4" lift.
 

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Nuts you need to do a little trimming. My tires dont rub at all, even at full flex. The only thing i trimmed was an inch off the lower front plastic valence. I did it at an angle and you cant even tell it has been cut.
 

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Panda, I see you have aftermarket wheels. How wide are the rims? What is the backspacing? LIke I said, you don't get things just so, YOU WILL HAVE RUBBING!!!!!!

IF you think that running 37's with a 4" lift is impressive, I have the works on how to fit 40's with only a 4" lift and "SOME" body work or adding in a 3" body lift and then trimming the fender wells a little bit. But, that is something I am pondering and unless I change my mind to keep the truck for a lot longer, I am not going to do it. The big thing that would make the modification expensive is that I would also have to do a solid axle swap due to the size of tire and the stresses that they would place on the front hubs. But, you never know.
 

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Panda, I see you have aftermarket wheels. How wide are the rims? What is the backspacing? LIke I said, you don't get things just so, YOU WILL HAVE RUBBING!!!!!!

IF you think that running 37's with a 4" lift is impressive, I have the works on how to fit 40's with only a 4" lift and "SOME" body work or adding in a 3" body lift and then trimming the fender wells a little bit. But, that is something I am pondering and unless I change my mind to keep the truck for a lot longer, I am not going to do it. The big thing that would make the modification expensive is that I would also have to do a solid axle swap due to the size of tire and the stresses that they would place on the front hubs. But, you never know.

na man he got painted stock 16's:superhack:
 

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na man he got painted stock 16's:superhack:

What ever. And yea they are stock. I'm just going with 35s for now. I'll do 37s when I long travel my tank. But that's with fiberglass fenders or clip and rear glass as well. But that's way future. I'm good with my cheap o 2 inch lift. Haha
 

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Nuts you need to do a little trimming. My tires dont rub at all, even at full flex. The only thing i trimmed was an inch off the lower front plastic valence. I did it at an angle and you cant even tell it has been cut.

I did trim a little... I mean barely a 1/4" but I will still get a slight rub if I'm articulated enough... my old 97 f150 on 38x15.5s would rub the torsion bars at full turn... i don;t know if expy has the same problem... doesn;t rub bad enough so I don't worry about it... normal driving and towing my boat it doesn;t rub so I am not worried..lol
 

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I'm new to the forum and have just recently bought a 2000 expedition 4x4 xlt. This is my first 4x4 and I had a few questions. First off, I wanted to put 36" tires on it so would a 3 in lift provide enough clearance without rubbing? Would a suspension or body lift be suitable? I'm not doing too much off roading..

Also what tires would you recommend? I'm looking for a good all season tire. All input is appreciated
 

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any all terrain is a good tire. and for 36s i would do a 2" suspension lift. torsion crank and 2" spacer and do a 3" body lift. itll fit 35s with little to no rubbing. and 36s might rub. so trimming might be needed.
 

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I'm new to the forum and have just recently bought a 2000 expedition 4x4 xlt. This is my first 4x4 and I had a few questions. First off, I wanted to put 36" tires on it so would a 3 in lift provide enough clearance without rubbing? Would a suspension or body lift be suitable? I'm not doing too much off roading..

Also what tires would you recommend? I'm looking for a good all season tire. All input is appreciated

usually a 4" suspension lift... or 3" body and cranked torsion bars with 3" coil spacer will clear 35s perfectly.... and if you don't have the 36s already I would look for 35s since there will be tons more choices and a lot cheaper tires for you... and with either lift combo you would have no problems...

or if you keep stock rims and crank the torsion bars you can fit a 315/75r16.. which is a 34.5" tire
 

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any all terrain is a good tire. and for 36s i would do a 2" suspension lift. torsion crank and 2" spacer and do a 3" body lift. itll fit 35s with little to no rubbing. and 36s might rub. so trimming might be needed.

Yup. That's what I'm running. No rubbing except the odd time I back out of the driveway at a sharp angle. 36's might need trimming.
 

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From my experience with a 4" lift, 315/75R16's are as big as you can fit without any modification if you are using an 8" wide rim with 4.5" backspacing. Going with a wider rim will result in rubbing, but this can be overcome with modifying the rear of the front wheel wells and trimming the front valance some. STepping up to 36's is most likely going to result in rubbing unless you do a lot more. Now, this all assumes no rubbing under any condition. Sure, I am running 37x12.5's and I have done a significant amount of modification and have a very specific setup that only works as I have it. Any change and it wouldn't work. Going with a rim wider than 8" with any 35" or larger tire is that the tire will start to rub on the outside edge of the rear wheel well unless you have adequate lift. For a 35" tire, that is atleast 4" of lift. I tuck my 37's by 1" with only 4" of lift.

Hopefully this gives you an idea of what needs to be done. IF you have more questions, just ask.
 

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From my experience with a 4" lift, 315/75R16's are as big as you can fit without any modification if you are using an 8" wide rim with 4.5" backspacing. Going with a wider rim will result in rubbing, but this can be overcome with modifying the rear of the front wheel wells and trimming the front valance some. STepping up to 36's is most likely going to result in rubbing unless you do a lot more. Now, this all assumes no rubbing under any condition. Sure, I am running 37x12.5's and I have done a significant amount of modification and have a very specific setup that only works as I have it. Any change and it wouldn't work. Going with a rim wider than 8" with any 35" or larger tire is that the tire will start to rub on the outside edge of the rear wheel well unless you have adequate lift. For a 35" tire, that is atleast 4" of lift. I tuck my 37's by 1" with only 4" of lift.

Hopefully this gives you an idea of what needs to be done. IF you have more questions, just ask.


Thanks if it takes a great deal Of work to jump to 36" then what would be needed to atleast set to a 33". Would you recommend a 3" body lift? I am not familiar with back spacing and those terms, what does that mean?
 

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Thanks if it takes a great deal Of work to jump to 36" then what would be needed to atleast set to a 33". Would you recommend a 3" body lift? I am not familiar with back spacing and those terms, what does that mean?

Dont shy away from the big tires that you want. 33's will fit stock. Thats what my parents had on mine before they gave it to me. Just crank your torsion bars, get 2in. rear coil sspacers and do a body lift and it will fit 35's with ease. For tires i recommend ProComp Xtreme all terrain.
 

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Dont shy away from the big tires that you want. 33's will fit stock. Thats what my parents had on mine before they gave it to me. Just crank your torsion bars, get 2in. rear coil sspacers and do a body lift and it will fit 35's with ease. For tires i recommend ProComp Xtreme all terrain.

Thanks again, how much do those procomps run and about what would it cost just to lift it for the parts only? Could it be done without going to a body shop? Do you have any pics of your expedition that you wouldn't mind posting for me to get an idea of how it would turn out
 

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there are a lot of people on here with the 3" BL and coil spacers on 35s... Lane24 and DGray69 are two that come to mind... I know there are others...

a body lift is not the most difficult lift, but you would need tools, some mechanical knowledge and at least a full day or two to get it done... spacers are a lot less work..

but I second the ProComp xtreme ATs I love mine... but they arent the cheapest tires
 

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there are a lot of people on here with the 3" BL and coil spacers on 35s... Lane24 and DGray69 are two that come to mind... I know there are others...

a body lift is not the most difficult lift, but you would need tools, some mechanical knowledge and at least a full day or two to get it done... spacers are a lot less work..

but I second the ProComp xtreme ATs I love mine... but they arent the cheapest tires

The only reason I wont lift mine is because I'm trying to squeeze out the best mpg possible. With gas prices going over $4 this summer I have no choice...
 

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LastExpo, backspacing is simply a measurement of the rim. If you pull a tire off of your truck, put a straight edge across the backside of the rim (only on the metal part) and then measure from the bottom edge to where the tire touches the brake rotor, this distance is "backspacing". On factory rims for our trucks, that distance is 4.5".

As for doing a body lift, that is a viable option. Not that big of a deal. The big thing you need is a T-55 Torx bit (as I recall) and some other wrenches. Granted, if you have adjustable pedals, you need to get very specific body lifts that will handle the option.

If you are looking at keeping the best mileage possible, then bigger tires are not to be considered. All they are going to do is lower your mileage. But, to minimize the effect, make sure to get your speedo recalibrated as this will restore the shift points and keep your mileage as high as possible.

Walnuts, just to let you know, I am currently up in Rochester and some of the members of my truck club are getting together this saturday in Rochester at Dinosaur BBQ. IF you are interested, let me know.
 
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