Flimsy lug nuts

[crorad]

Got a flat tire on my 2018 Expy. I didn't realize that on the OEM lug nuts there is a flimsy aluminum cap over the actual nut. When I tried to remove the nuts the caps were either swollen and I couldn't get the lug wrench on or if I did they would just spin over the actual nut. It was impossible to loosen the nut or remove the cap with the flat tire kit provided. Luckily I was in town and my wife drove me to an autoparts store to buy a stripped lug nut remover. With this I was able to get the caps off but removing each cap from the extractor was a real pain on the side of the road with limited tools. Now I needed another ride home to get more tools to get each cap out of the extractor. What should have been a straightforward tire change in less than 1/2 hour ended up being an over 4 hour ordeal. I immediately got all my other lug nuts replaced with better quality single piece nuts at a local tire shop. Buyer beware that this doesn't happen to you in the middle of nowhere! Did a web search and there actually has been a class action lawsuit regarding this but it was dismissed. http://www.fordproblems.com/swollen-lug-nuts/ Maybe if enough people complain they will be forced to do a recall.

 

[Deadman]

Get gorilla forged nuts.

 

[techdude99]

McGuard are a good alternative.

Good luck with Ford.

If you keep the crappy lug nuts, buy the socket below. It's used by most shops.

 

[ManUpOrShutUp]

Many of us have been through this ordeal. I got a flat on NPS lands and couldn't get the wrench on my swollen nuts. The tow truck driver couldn't cross the bridge to get to me because his truck was over the limit, so I had to drive a couple miles on a flat. My wheel developed a hairline crack from driving on the flat and I had to replace it. What was initially a patchable flat turned into a demolished tire, so I had to replace that as well. The tow truck driver got the wheel changed with an array of sockets and a mallet. After that ordeal I replaced all of my lugs with Gorilla lugs.

 

[PHD20]

Just replaced my factory lug nuts with McGard (#64034). Even though I'm only at about 6k miles, I had heard enough about failures to consider it worthwhile to get ahead of any issues.

 

[Trainmaster]

The McGards are real nice USA quality. Frankly, I think the original stainless-sheathed ones are fine if they are never used with an impact wrench or the wrong size socket. An impact tool or improper wrench applies pressure to the high corners and causes the flats to bulge. Just how I see it. I've had them for decades until a tire place destroyed them with an air wrench.

 

[techdude99]

I've also seen impacts destroy these types of nuts after years of holding up fine. Areas without roadsalt help, too.

The McGuard have served me well on several cars and they stand behind their warranty. It's also a bonus to support a domestic company that makes a quality productat a reasonable price.

 

[Fastcar]

I've decided. McGard nuts. Now where is the best price on them? Also is the number listed above correct?

 

[Stephen Dunster]

Set number is 84505. It looks like Tire Rack is the cheapest place to buy the set. $80.00 with free shipping.
https://www.tirerack.com/accessorie...3!537118804928!!!u!293946777986!&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[Michael D Morris]

Many of us have been through this ordeal. I got a flat on NPS lands and couldn't get the wrench on my swollen nuts. The tow truck driver couldn't cross the bridge to get to me because his truck was over the limit, so I had to drive a couple miles on a flat. My wheel developed a hairline crack from driving on the flat and I had to replace it. What was initially a patchable flat turned into a demolished tire, so I had to replace that as well. The tow truck driver got the wheel changed with an array of sockets and a mallet. After that ordeal I replaced all of my lugs with Gorilla lugs.

Never wrench on swollen nuts.

 

[Michael D Morris]

What size lug nuts are required on 2019a Expy Max Limited with 22" wheels?

 

[Texasroadlawyer]

Gorilla Nuts have been on my cars and trucks without issue for years

 

[pauldevz]

Just thought of putting some pictures (attached below) on the subject. The Ford Dealer at Abu Dhabi refused to rotate the wheels as they say I need to replace the lug nuts costing around USD 200. (FORD - FDACPZ 1012 B/NUT - WHEEL). The car had 120,000KMs on the time of Ford Service and recommended to replace the lug nuts. I was wondering why it needed to be replaced as the car was only serviced by the Ford Dealers.
On the 130,000 they advised the wheels can not have the normal service rotation due to the swollen lug nuts.

I got a replacement from Amazon and I was going to try to replace the lug nuts myself and alas, the Ford included tools could not fit.
Brought the car to a local tyre shop, and even the mechanic was having a hard time hammering the socket wrench to fit the lugs and even removing it after with the impact wrench.

Here's some photos below for your reference. The top is the original, middle is the chrome cap broken comparing it to the new/replacement lugs on the bottom.




Get them replaced as soon as you can or try to claim it if your car is under warranty if possible. A poorly designed part to break or deform and can leave you stranded on the road even with a working spare tyre. Probably FORD do still want to keep a reputation of "Found On the Road Dead."

 

[FlyBry]

Size = M14 x 1.5", or longer will suffice.

Unless you want to get gladiator style - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07N41FXR...9Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

 

[Fastcar]

Maybe don't use an impact gun?