Ford Reports Record Sales

[Paddler]

Its too early to tell about the Expedition reliability, they have only been on the road for at most 4 months. Wait a year to get some real data to do the comparison. There have already been 2 recalls on the new Expeditions, and numerous people on here have reported issues with the new model year, especially electrical gremlins. Its just to early to tell if the Expedition will be better, worse, or the same as GM in quality and reliability.

Yes, it's early. But CR predicts average reliability for the 2018, and worse or much worse than average for all the GM products. For me, only the Max or Suburban were under consideration. Not even a close call, the Max is a lot better vehicle. Just the IRS is enough, better packaging, ride, etc. I expect that over time The Max will eat into 'burb sales.

A friend of mine wants to come over when I take delivery. He drives an older Tahoe now and likes it. We'll see what he thinks. I honestly don't understand how anybody could choose any of the GM variations over the Expy. 65 vs 53 according to CR. Case closed.

 

[3rd Expyowner123]

It's difficult to find a Platinum in inventory on the lots, it's hard to believe that 26% of the sales are Platinum's. I suspect most are special order or the dealer sells their ordered units yet to arrive before even being on the lot for sale.

 

[Paddler]

When the 3rd gen was released it sold about 91,000 units it’s first year, a lot more than projected this go round if you want to talk units sold the 3rd gen was more successful. Pricing is simply too high 58k for a XLT truck is ridiculous. Mine was $35,000 and now for the same truck it’s $58,000?! No thanks.

Gen 3 sales fell off remarkably, some years were in the 30K-40K range, the average was 48K/year. Not sure what year you own, but it's definitely not the same truck. Gen 4 is a big improvement in many ways.

 

[JExpedition07]

Gen 3 sales fell off remarkably, some years were in the 30K-40K range, the average was 48K/year. Not sure what year you own, but it's definitely not the same truck. Gen 4 is a big improvement in many ways.

Mine is the first year, 2007. That year they sold 91,000 units. Sales fell mostly likely due to economy and high gas prices as they dropped in 09’. Plus they were aging.

 

[Paddler]

I have a 2008, bought used in 2010 because I didn't want to buy new and keep it for a long time. The interior is terribly tacky. Glad I waited, though I didn't think it would take this long for the new generation. Given the much improved interior, Gen 2 Ecoboost, aluminum body and ten speed transmission, it's a significantly better truck. Can't wait to take delivery.

 

[John Christopher]

Post some pictures when you get the truck.

 

[aggiegrad05]

From Ford's press release:

Retail sales of the all-new Ford Expedition jumped 25.8 percent last month, as dealer inventories continue to expand. Expedition is spending just 17 days on dealer lots on average. Average
transaction prices are up $12,100 over year-ago levels.

Navigator sales are up 135 percent at retail and 122 percent overall. Average time on dealer lots remains a quick 13 days overall, just 10 days for Black Label. We’re seeing triple-digit increases in every region, with the West producing the most sizable gains - 188 percent. Average transaction pricing is up $26,300, at $81,200.

Although I am a little confused by the Expy numbers and where that claimed gain is coming from. Sales in April were 3,976 versus 5,653 in March of this year and 5,116 in April of last year. So it's certainly not up 25.8% over the previous month or YOY. And they're actually down 3.2% YTD. Maybe they're talking aggregate dollars sold? April actually seems like it was a really disappointing month...maybe the issues of availability with the 3.73?

 

[Scottorama]

Creative accounting....?

Sales were actually down 22.3 % for the Expedition compared to last April. And that's from Ford's sales numbers they published.

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North America/US/2018/05/01/18-apr-sales.pdf

 

[JExpedition07]

Creative accounting....?

Sales were actually down 22.3 % for the Expedition compared to last April. And that's from Ford's sales numbers they published.

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North America/US/2018/05/01/18-apr-sales.pdf

Can’t argue with that. It’s their own press release and it shows sales for this April to be down 22.3% from this time last year under the 2017 model year. Sales aren’t as great as these articles claim. The Expedition is getting greatly outsold by GM units right now, the suburban alone is selling more YTD than the Expeditions.

 

[JExpedition07]

Also notice Year to Date sales on Expedition are down 15% from 2017

 

[Kurtyg2020]

From Ford's press release:

Retail sales of the all-new Ford Expedition jumped 25.8 percent last month, as dealer inventories continue to expand. Expedition is spending just 17 days on dealer lots on average. Average
transaction prices are up $12,100 over year-ago levels.

Navigator sales are up 135 percent at retail and 122 percent overall. Average time on dealer lots remains a quick 13 days overall, just 10 days for Black Label. We’re seeing triple-digit increases in every region, with the West producing the most sizable gains - 188 percent. Average transaction pricing is up $26,300, at $81,200.

Although I am a little confused by the Expy numbers and where that claimed gain is coming from. Sales in April were 3,976 versus 5,653 in March of this year and 5,116 in April of last year. So it's certainly not up 25.8% over the previous month or YOY. And they're actually down 3.2% YTD. Maybe they're talking aggregate dollars sold? April actually seems like it was a really disappointing month...maybe the issues of availability with the 3.73?

Overall sales are down, but Ford is saying that retail sales are up. Which is to be expected due to the fact that a lot of 2017's ended up in rental lots. My guess is that even though overall sales are down, Ford is making more money with less volume, which in my mind is great news.