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Your truck so do what you like. I'd be a little spooked junking airbags... you know, the "just my luck" sort of thing. But paint it and put them back would be kind of cool. Does the spray on stuff come in colors? Be curious to see how it turns out.

Odd that here in New York, the second most fascist state of the Union, air bags are not required for the annual State inspection, and the car would pass with the airbag light on.
 

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You should consider that the airbags already create significant insulation where they are rolled up. Ignore that area entirely. Mask it up entirely before spraying. If any of that spray insulation gets on the airbags, they will stick and won't unfurl. The trim pieces and headliner that normally cover them are for protection of the system and break away when the airbags unfurl. Don't gum those up or the airbags won't work.

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Your truck so do what you like. I'd be a little spooked junking airbags... you know, the "just my luck" sort of thing. But paint it and put them back would be kind of cool. Does the spray on stuff come in colors? Be curious to see how it turns out.

Odd that here in New York, the second most fascist state of the Union, air bags are not required for the annual State inspection, and the car would pass with the airbag light on.

LizardSkin use to be black. I think it only comes in white now and you can paint over it if you want it another color.

Most states are like that. You won't fail inspection if airbag light is on. Here in Florida there is no yearly inspection / emission test. They just check your vin against title or lien when you register it for the first time.
 
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You should consider that the airbags already create significant insulation where they are rolled up. Ignore that area entirely. Mask it up entirely before spraying. If any of that spray insulation gets on the airbags, they will stick and won't unfurl. The trim pieces and headliner that normally cover them are for protection of the system and break away when the airbags unfurl. Don't gum those up or the airbags won't work.

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I will remove them before spraying the insulation. Trying to spray around them will be difficult.
 

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If you ever go into a pole or get hit in the side with a truck you’ll have wished those curtain airbags came down. Even in frontal collisions they keep your head away from glass and outside shrapnel. When your seat back breaks loose and your seat belt is rendered useless the only thing keeping your head inside the truck is that airbag.
 

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You realize, don't you, that you are messing with explosives, right? If the airbags are restricted with your lizardskin and polyiso (whatever that crap is) you're mucking with your life and whoever's in the XP with you. Definitely not a good idea. Just because you can remove them, doesn't mean that it's a good idea or that they will work PROPERLY and SAFELY when you try to put them back in. Yeah, I agree with ManUp, you're just going to hurt yourself one way or the other. And yep, I'll take that bet.
 
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You realize, don't you, that you are messing with explosives, right? If the airbags are restricted with your lizardskin and polyiso (whatever that crap is) you're mucking with your life and whoever's in the XP with you. Definitely not a good idea. Just because you can remove them, doesn't mean that it's a good idea or that they will work PROPERLY and SAFELY when you try to put them back in. Yeah, I agree with ManUp, you're just going to hurt yourself one way or the other. And yep, I'll take that bet.

If you don't know what lizardskin and polyiso is or know exactly what I'm doing. Saying it's definitely not a good idea is just your opinion, but you have no idea if there is any truth to it. Which there's not. The process to remove and put back in is very simple. It's impossible to not put them back in exactly as they were before taking out.
 
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How are you going to insulate the windows? they are definitely a source of heat gain/loss.

Yea, all the windows are definitely problematic.

I will make custom tight-fitting covers that have insulation in them.
 

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I've camped in my Expy for up to 9 days in a row where it gets below freezing at night. I have "clothes, hat, gloves" I wear in my sleeping bag and a blanket over the bag if I need that. Toasty warm. Until I have to get up and go outside for relief. Here is a nice addition I use on the side of the Expy for when its raining or protection from sun. I've never figured any safe way to heat the inside of the Expy so I would have no use for insulation. I used to have a cargo van that I spray foamed the floor, walls, ceiling ... and it was NICE to have that. We would get a few people in there (70's) and body heat was enough to keep it warm inside. Of course you may be trying to keep heat out not in?
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I've camped in my Expy for up to 9 days in a row where it gets below freezing at night. I have "clothes, hat, gloves" I wear in my sleeping bag and a blanket over the bag if I need that. Toasty warm. Until I have to get up and go outside for relief. Here is a nice addition I use on the side of the Expy for when its raining or protection from sun. I've never figured any safe way to heat the inside of the Expy so I would have no use for insulation. I used to have a cargo van that I spray foamed the floor, walls, ceiling ... and it was NICE to have that. We would get a few people in there (70's) and body heat was enough to keep it warm inside. Of course you may be trying to keep heat out not in?
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Everything I'm doing is to keep the heat out and cold in when running an AC. I have a 5K BTU AC that uses up to 410 watts when the compressor is running. The more efficient the insulation is will cause the AC compressor to run less and use less power. Which is my main objective.

For heat, I have a 2K diesel heater and Olympian Wave 3 propane heater as a backup.
 

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Everything I'm doing is to keep the heat out and cold in when running an AC. I have a 5K BTU AC that uses up to 410 watts when the compressor is running. The more efficient the insulation is will cause the AC compressor to run less and use less power. Which is my main objective.

For heat, I have a 2K diesel heater and Olympian Wave 3 propane heater as a backup.
You use (or plan to use) a diesel or propane heater inside a closed Expedition.
I would figure that would be a death trap, but what do I know?
Oxygen good .... Carbon Monoxide bad, unless you want to take a long nap.
 
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You use (or plan to use) a diesel or propane heater inside a closed Expedition.
I would figure that would be a death trap, but what do I know?
Oxygen good .... Carbon Monoxide bad, unless you want to take a long nap.

Nope.

Diesel heater exhaust goes to the outside and is perfectly fine if installed correctly. Which is simple to do.

Propane heaters don't produce carbon monoxide. Propane appliances could if something was wrong with it and it didn't burn correctly. However, pretty sure it's rare unless the way it works is tampered with. They do use up oxygen, so you want to have a window cracked the proper amount.

Propane heater is just a backup if I was to have a problem with the diesel heater. I have an carbon monoxide alarm just to be safe.

I've been using both in my van for over 2 years and never had a problem. I recently sold the van and why I'm building out the expedition.
 
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