Holy Moly!!!

[JExpedition07]

I had the worst oil change of my life today on the expy!!!! I had it done by the Ford dealer and it reminded me why I won’t ever. Again.

I got under the truck and it started down-pouring, the pan bolt was torqued down so hard I had to put a pipe on my 5/8 box to loosen, socket set didn’t touch it. Filter was so tight I had to destroy it and crush it with chanellocks to get it off as the filter wrench couldn’t get it. All this in the middle of a down pour......just a vent LOL.

It amazes me you can’t pay people to change your oil properly.

 

[Trainmaster]

...and people make fun of me for changing my own oil.

 

[Adieu]

How do you torque yours? To a value on a torque wrench, or eyeball it somehow, like a 2 finger pull on a short ratchet?

 

[jeff kushner]

Glad you got them both loose now JE....that sure is a point-of-no-return once you puncture the filter to remove it......I always get a sick feeling right before the screwdriver is stabbed into the imobile offender!


jeff

 

[JExpedition07]

How do you torque yours? To a value on a torque wrench, or eyeball it somehow, like a 2 finger pull on a short ratchet?

On the drain plug I use my ratcheting box wrench and just tighten until snug by hand. On the filter I tighten by hand until snug and go another 1/4 turn.....that way no leaks and everything comes off next change.

 

[Traveler]

I tighten the plug only as tight as needed to stop leaks and still be removable (years of practice). The filter I tighten as tight as I can get it by hand... No tools. I've only had a leak once in my 40+ years of doing this.
Havent changed the oil on the 07 Expy yet (just got it). Anything I should know before going in?
The Explorer is a joy to change. High enough that no jack is required and both the plug and filter are easy to reach!
My old 4.6 V8 Tbird was another matter. The Ford engineer on that one should be drawn and quartered LoL. It was low (my choice.. I lowered it) and the filter was impossible to reach without disjointing your wrist.

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[1955moose]

If you don't slam that dealer your nuts. We keep going through this same crap week after week. And a dealership no less. What's it going to come down to, an 80 year old man having to work on his own vehicle, because the 21 year old doesn't know how? But the idiots put Gilligan with a wrench in his hand. Old Gilligan can manuever his I phone or a Surf board, but God forbid he can torque a drain plug to say 25 ft pounds!

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[Plati]

How do you know who did that oil change?
Its a new (to you) truck, right?

 

[JExpedition07]

How do you know who did that oil change?
Its a new (to you) truck, right?

As soon as I bought the truck I had the dealer change it....I have no idea who the tech was. The owner of the truck had older oil in it as far as I could tell when I purchased. They also put 5W-20 in it which I’m not a fan of, I run 5-30 normally.

Whenever I buy a used vehicle I “flush” the engine anyway, so I switched it to the slightly heavier oil as well. Probably does nothing but that’s just how I roll.

 

[JExpedition07]

As far as slamming anyone.....no thanks it won’t solve anything. It’s over. Had it not been raining I would have been less PO’d I’m sure.

I’ll slam them by not taking it back .

 

[99WhiteC5Coupe]

I had the worst oil change of my life today on the expy!!!! I had it done by the Ford dealer and it reminded me why I won’t ever. Again.

I got under the truck and it started down-pouring, the pan bolt was torqued down so hard I had to put a pipe on my 5/8 box to loosen, socket set didn’t touch it. Filter was so tight I had to destroy it and crush it with chanellocks to get it off as the filter wrench couldn’t get it. All this in the middle of a down pour......just a vent LOL.

It amazes me you can’t pay people to change your oil properly.

I bought a new 2015 Ford Expedition Limited 4x4 - my first Ford in 40+ years of driving and vehicle ownership.

Twice, the selling dealership “factory trained technician” put 5W20 oil in the engine, instead of the required 5W30. Another time, the same dealership also put in eight quarts of engine oil, instead of the required six. When I spoke to the service advisor about the 5W20 oil - he said his “guys” weren’t used to the 5W30 oil yet.

I no longer go to that dealer for anything.

I went to a second Ford dealer for the “works” oil change package (I had four major surgeries and can no longer perform certain tasks). When I got home, I noticed the large, underbody engine shield was hanging down and not fastened. Back to the dealer to “get it done right”.

I’m now using a third dealer for service. It amazes me that the owners of dealerships haven’t figured out that poor service drives customers away.

 

[Plati]

As soon as I bought the truck I had the dealer change it....I have no idea who the tech was. The owner of the truck had older oil in it as far as I could tell when I purchased. They also put 5W-20 in it which I’m not a fan of, I run 5-30 normally.

Whenever I buy a used vehicle I “flush” the engine anyway, so I switched it to the slightly heavier oil as well. Probably does nothing but that’s just how I roll.

That makes perfect sense. I should have figured that out without asking.

None of my business, but I would let the dealer know. In a positive manner. I take the attitude that a good business manager WANTS to know that stuff. Usually when I share good info like that with them they are very appreciative (not always) and it helps build the relationship. Nobody is perfect (I'm an good example of that) and feedback is a step towards improvement.

 

[Eagle 71]

I would let the dealer know

Agree. If you don't, the wrench monkey will continue to keep tightening it wrong on other vehicles.

 

[chuck s]

Is there a torque spec for the oil filter and drain plugs? Just curious.

Doubt I'll even do oil changes on my Expedition but my lil Honda roadster has a specific torque for both the filter and plugs and I use a torque wrench on both. Easy enough to do.

-- Chuck

 

[1955moose]

20 ft pounds on the drain plug. A bit of fresh oil around rubber gasket so it doesn't stick or crack, then spin it down till snug, then 1/4 turn past that. No, I repeat no filter wrench or cup wrench to tighten down. In 50 years of doing this from 1960- Currently, never had a oil filter, Car or Motorcycle come loose. If your a worry wart, recheck snugness a day or two after oil change. Bottom line, don't over tighten either the filter or plug. It's an easy job, don't overcomplicate it.

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[TobyU]

20 ft pounds on the drain plug. A bit of fresh oil around rubber gasket so it doesn't stick or crack, then spin it down till snug, then 1/4 turn past that. No, I repeat no filter wrench or cup wrench to tighten down. In 50 years of doing this from 1960- Currently, never had a oil filter, Car or Motorcycle come loose. If your a worry wart, recheck snugness a day or two after oil change. Bottom line, don't over tighten either the filter or plug. It's an easy job, don't overcomplicate it.

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I have seen two filters loose in my life! One on a Geo tracker and another on Town car. I assume both done at quick change places due to the odd brand of filters.
Both leaking a little on the ground and when I touched them they moved. Didn't even have to try to turn them as they were barely touching gasket to metal.
Someone must have spun them on without giving hand snug at least.