Is it worth it to install a remote starter in the 3rd gen models?

[tommyddsr]

I'm interested in installing one myself in a 2009. Do you have a link for the one you installed? Was it very hard to install and about how long did it take. Of course right now I have no where to go and plenty of time. Thanks.

 

[Mark D]

I live in WI where we get temperature extremes: well below zero in the winter and up to 100 in the summer. In the winter, my heater and heated seats are warming me within 2 miles from home (about 3 minutes). Same with cooling in the summer. If I had a remote starter I doubt I would ever use it.

It seem to me like one of the dumbest ideas unless you have some underlying health condition that prevents you from being able to scrape your icy windows in the winter for the following reasons.
1 It wastes fuel
2 It wastes money
3 It is harmful for the environment, spewing extra exhaust unnecessarily.
4 It is harmful to the engine - it is best for the engine to be in motion as quickly as possible after starting the engine to ensure the best lubrication.
5 It wastes time - I watch co-workers start their engines and then wait for their vehicle to warm up for 5-10 minutes before leaving work. I can be half way home in that amount of time.

I can think of a lot better ways to spend my money.

 

[07navi]

I live in WI where we get temperature extremes: well below zero in the winter and up to 100 in the summer. In the winter, my heater and heated seats are warming me within 2 miles from home (about 3 minutes). Same with cooling in the summer. If I had a remote starter I doubt I would ever use it.

It seem to me like one of the dumbest ideas unless you have some underlying health condition that prevents you from being able to scrape your icy windows in the winter for the following reasons.
1 It wastes fuel
2 It wastes money
3 It is harmful for the environment, spewing extra exhaust unnecessarily.
4 It is harmful to the engine - it is best for the engine to be in motion as quickly as possible after starting the engine to ensure the best lubrication.
5 It wastes time - I watch co-workers start their engines and then wait for their vehicle to warm up for 5-10 minutes before leaving work. I can be half way home in that amount of time.

I can think of a lot better ways to spend my money.

I don't agree with any of the above plus my doors freeze shut.

 

[Drae]

4 It is harmful to the engine - it is best for the engine to be in motion as quickly as possible after starting the engine to ensure the best lubrication.

I hope you are joking about this one lol. You do not want to go revving a cold engine. There is an operating temp for a reason. There are thermostats in the engine and transmission for that reason. Also a cold engine is running a little rich in open loop mode. You can't feel how sluggish the vehicle is until it hits a certain temperature?

 

[akacolonel]

This is the one I got

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PWUYWJ8?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

 

[akacolonel]

Also search my user name and you will find more info....

 

[07navi]

4 It is harmful to the engine - it is best for the engine to be in motion as quickly as possible after starting the engine to ensure the best lubrication.

I hope you are joking about this one lol. You do not want to go revving a cold engine. There is an operating temp for a reason. There are thermostats in the engine and transmission for that reason. Also a cold engine is running a little rich in open loop mode. You can't feel how sluggish the vehicle is until it hits a certain temperature?

Some jobs like the railroad idle their engines for hours. Not a big deal for 5 or 10 minutes in the winter when you need it. My next truck will definitely have remote start.

 

[Drae]

Some jobs like the railroad idle their engines for hours. Not a big deal for 5 or 10 minutes in the winter when you need it. My next truck will definitely have remote start.

For the colder days in Alaska it's at least 25 minutes. I use it when it's not cold also for about 3 to 5 minutes to let the oil circulate, let all the sensors and valves operate, make sure no check engine light suddenly pop up and to bring the idle down.

 

[Trainmaster]

Some jobs like the railroad idle their engines for hours.

Funny you should mention that. When I was working on calls, the truck was never shut off. It ran for my entire tour, even when I was in the office. That's how railroads work. Without the worry of fuel costs, trucks are seldom shut down, just like the locomotives.

 

[tommyddsr]

Also search my user name and you will find more info....

Thank you!

 

[lbv150]

We don't drive any of our vehicles until they are at operating temp. My '04 and '16 have OEM dealer installed remote start. I don't do anything aftermarket if I can help it.

 

[silvio 2013 exped]

akacolonel, I am in the process of installing FORTIN-ONE in my 2013. I cant seem to locate the parking light wire. Install guide says BCM is on driver side, mine is on passenger side and looks nothing like what is in the pic they provided. There MUST be a wire I can tap in to that is coming down the door frame on driver side I can use. Anyone happen to know what the color code for that wire might be? TIA !

 

[akacolonel]

I dug out my old instructions. My wire in pin 6 was violet/white. Connector was left of steering wheel under dash. Hope this helps.. fyi.. i have a 2014.. good luck!!

 

[Trainmaster]

I never saw aftermarket stuff come with a diagram like that. Quite a surprise to see good stuff not printed in Chinese.

 

[JExpedition07]

I usually start and go as soon as it comes off high idle, seeing as you could eat out of the inside of my engine when I had it open for
the timing job and there was no excess wear on rockers or cams I’d say you are fine to start and go...the new oil pump helps too

 

[akacolonel]

I believe the Fortin is made in canada. I kept instructions as i made notes on them for future reference. Im glad i put this on my truck. A few hours of labor and $140!!

 

[07navi]

The "warm it up before you drive it" theory started back in the forties when they had the splash system where the rods had scoops on them. I see people warming their engines before driving them now and then but the oil pumps instantly provide oil to the entire engine. It's not like you are going to jump on the freeway in 2 minutes anyway. I have had 50+ vehicles, never warmed them first, and never had a problem.

 

[Plati]

The "warm it up before you drive it" theory started back in the forties when they had the splash system where the rods had scoops on them. I see people warming their engines before driving them now and then but the oil pumps instantly provide oil to the entire engine. It's not like you are going to jump on the freeway in 2 minutes anyway. I have had 50+ vehicles, never warmed them first, and never had a problem.

I always thought that warmup thing had to do with carburetors ... which are no more.
I wait for idle to slow with my 2014, the 2003 never did that. Its all good.

 

[07navi]

I always thought that warmup thing had to do with carburetors ... which are no more.
I wait for idle to slow with my 2014, the 2003 never did that. Its all good.

That was probably part of it too but the choke was supposed to take care of that. As soon as it starts, I drop it in gear........no problems since my first car in the fifties. ('50 Merc)