Knock from my Bellhousing ?????

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DanH

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I hope one of you Expedition guys can help me.
I recently purchased a 98 Expedition 4.6 that had the motor dismantled by the previous owner for a leaking head gasket so I never heard it run or driven it. I was told that the transmission was recently replace with a salvage unit that had 57K on it. The markings on the trans support that. Instead of rebuilding the 4.6 from the boxes of parts I had I looked for a used engine. I found a guy parting a 99 F150 that had "burnt valve" on a 90K engine or so I was told. After I spent a few hours pulling it out of his truck I got it home to find a thrown rod. Glad I only paid $125 for it. Good news was I took everthing that was attached to the engine. ( lots of spare parts ) After that mess I found a slightly banged up 99 P71 Crown Vic that had a new engine that turned out to be a NPI just like my Expedition and ran beautifully. Now I thought I was in bussiness. I changed the timing cover and oil pan. The inside of the engine looked new and has all the indicatons of a reman.
Here is what I'm struggling with...
I painfully installed the 4.6 back in the Expedition using all the original Expedition parts and sensors paying close attention to doing it correctly. After completion and a short prayer I started it up. Ran rough at first soon smoothed out. The problem is it has a knock coming from the bell housing that sounds like a rod. I had the notorious cracked flexplate issue before on my Explorer so I assumed I didn't inspect that close enough before I installed it. I just pulled the flexplate back out only to find it appears to be in good shape. The Flexplate bolts and TC nuts were tight and I dont see any indication of rubbing on any of the components.
1. Would it have mattered if I didn't line up the pink dot that was on the flex plate and TC?
2. Could the TC have made such a noise? ( I'm not a transmission guy)

I don't want to guess and buy a new TC and put it back together.

HELP.............
 

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Those are hard to diag. Put it in drive and do a stall test. How bad is the knock. Then in park rev the engine to about 1500-2000 rpm and feather the gas between those rpms. i will bet you it is an engine knock.
 
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I would have bet on the engine the way it sounded but I just pulled it out of a running vehicle that I drove and their were no noises what so ever. The knock was there as soon as I started the truck after the translant. The knock increases with rpm's and never goes away. I climbed under the truck while it was running with a paper towel tube up to my ear. The oil pan is quiet and it was definantly coming from the bell housing. I can't run it right now, I have the trans pulled back and the flexplate out.
Can anyone give me insite on wheather it could be the TC?
 

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It could be if it is a 4r100. They used to have converter knock issues with the 4r100 in the diesels for the F-series. Not too sure oif this was an issue in the gas engine 4r100.
 
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It looks like I can get a reman TC for about $150. At this point im going to try the flexplate I got from the F150 "burnt valve" engine and a new TC and see what I get. I'm guessing the worst case would be it's the trans pump and I would have to rebuild the tranny also. I won't get back into my project until next week so if anyone else has some advise, I'd love to hear it. Thanks, DanH
 
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