Max Tire Size w/No Level Kit

[Garrett]

I am getting conflicting information from various dealers here.

Can you put on Toyo Open Country 33/12.50R22 on the Expy without needing to level for the front (or any 33x12.50 for that matter)?

 

[Adam Huskins]

I had 33x11.5s on mine and didn’t have to cut anything. This was with +18 offsets. I did have it leveled though as I’ve said before. From my experience the level wouldn’t be the issue. The 12.5s might necessitate some trimming of the front inner fender liner and possibly shortening the running boards, especially if you are going to keep the stock wheels. I now have 35x12.5s and I did have to trim both. That is rather easy though.


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[Blackscreen67]

Minus the red line, and gunmetal wheels this is well put together, but guarantee there's rub.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/muscle-car-builder-gives-ford-expedition-some-punch/

 

[Garrett]

So I just had a guy tell me the toyo 33/12.50/22 fits, yet I’ve never seen it.

 

[Randy_270]

Im guessing you're using the stock rims? I would guess that you're going to have rubbing issues with that wide of a tire. If you could find a tire thats closer to a 285 or 295 wide, you would most likely get away with that. Pretty sure Toyo has a 30 day return policy. If they don't fit, return them for a different size. And make sure you post a picture!

 

[EngRWW33]

I know this is an almost 2 year bump, but I intend to build upon the already discussed topic.

I'm looking at Kenda Klever RT in a 33x12.5R22 for my wifes Max Platinum. I am wondering if there is any real world experience with the move from the stock 11.2" width to a 12.5" width plus the ~1" bump in diameter. It is worth nothing that I do not intend to lift (especially not with spacers) in the near future. Some day when the stock suspension decides to give up, I'll investigate a suspension upgrade.

I drive a GX470 (2" 6112front, Icon RR rear, 33's, sliders, etc.) which we use for anything more than dirt forest roads. Roads and trails here can be tight and pinstripes would not be acceptable in the Expy... yet.

 

[Bow512]

I’m in the same boat of needing new tires. From what I have heard and seen, you can’t really go any wider with the stock 22’s as they will rub on the front of the UCA at full lock. I can fit my thumb in between it and the tire but it’s not much room. I’d like to run a 305/45/22, but not sure if it’s worth it.

Right now I’m trying to decide between the Toyo AT3’s, Nitto Terra Grappler G2’s in either stock size or the 305’s, or saving some money and going with the stock size Continental Terraincontact AT as they are $100 a tire cheaper.

 

[HigherHealings]

I did I put 33x12.50r20 on stock wheels and stock suspension

 

[Lou Hamilton]

I did I put 33x12.50r20 on stock wheels and stock suspension

How did they fit?

You have any pics?

Especially showing the front at full lock?

I’m either considering 33x12.5R20 or R22s.

If I keep stock rims, they will be the 22s. If I change rims, I will go to 20s.


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[HigherHealings]

Love em no rubbing no scrubbing and no trimming. Run with the 20's in my opinion they ride better then the 22 with 33's more tire. I pull a toy hauler and an enclosed trailer and I had to change rims and tires. Didnt handle to well in my opinion

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[HigherHealings]

Pics

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[Bow512]

Not a 33x12.50 but I wanted this posted because I couldn’t find actual info anywhere. I just got a set of 305/45/22 Toyo AT3’s put on and I have no rubbing while driving. At complete full lock sitting still without letting go of the steering wheel the tire slightly touches the control arm, but I haven’t had it hit it while driving yet. I don’t think you can go any wider on the stock 22.

 

[BLUWAGN]

Not a 33x12.50 but I wanted this posted because I couldn’t find actual info anywhere. I just got a set of 305/45/22 Toyo AT3’s put on and I have no rubbing while driving. At complete full lock sitting still without letting go of the steering wheel the tire slightly touches the control arm, but I haven’t had it hit it while driving yet. I don’t think you can go any wider on the stock 22.

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Thanks for sharing, was looking at these exact same tires and size for mine. Do you have any more pics at a 3/4 angle or down the side to show how much more they fill the 'tuck' of the stock wheels? Do they get close to rubbing the fender liner anywhere? I have mudflaps on mine so I know I'm definitely closer than stock on the front.

 

[DWs-TTEB]

Not a 33x12.50 but I wanted this posted because I couldn’t find actual info anywhere. I just got a set of 305/45/22 Toyo AT3’s put on and I have no rubbing while driving. At complete full lock sitting still without letting go of the steering wheel the tire slightly touches the control arm, but I haven’t had it hit it while driving yet. I don’t think you can go any wider on the stock 22.

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https://tiresize.com/calculator/

 

[Bow512]

Thanks for sharing, was looking at these exact same tires and size for mine. Do you have any more pics at a 3/4 angle or down the side to show how much more they fill the 'tuck' of the stock wheels? Do they get close to rubbing the fender liner anywhere? I have mudflaps on mine so I know I'm definitely closer than stock on the front.

I’ve got these pics. They aren’t anywhere close to hitting anything on the fender liner, but I’ll try to take a picture for you soon.

My speedometer was off by 1.2mph at 80, but that was an easy 15 min fix via forscan. Now it’s spot on.

 

[Sunflowergirl]

I did I put 33x12.50r20 on stock wheels and stock suspension

I’d like to see this setup at full lock and also parked up on a curb bc I know there’s got to be a ton of rubbing with 12.50s

 

[HigherHealings]

@Sunflowergirl ok I will take a pic. No rubbing at full lock. Parked or even making a u turn. I'll take a pic in a bit. Getting windows tinted now.

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[Fozzy]

My speedometer was off by 1.2mph at 80, but that was an easy 15 min fix via forscan. Now it’s spot on.

Can you post where in forscan you change this and what values needed. Is it revolutions per mile or Percentage change? Thanks


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[Sunflowergirl]

@Sunflowergirl ok I will take a pic. No rubbing at full lock. Parked or even making a u turn. I'll take a pic in a bit. Getting windows tinted now.

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Yeah park on a curb and turn em at full lock, replicate like you’re going off-road, they probably are good driving on pavement but offroad id bet They rub

 

[Bow512]

Can you post where in forscan you change this and what values needed. Is it revolutions per mile or Percentage change? Thanks


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GPS comparison is the easiest route. Just download a free speedometer app that shows speed down to tenths and use the analog spedo like the directions say.

See 726-12-01 on the BCM tab
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uDSQ1Z5a2Wt8-kjrSiVSlDFGFHnfeuhb3RTMVz95730/edit#gid=0

Here is the calculation file
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWnuQZlDTUGjKjmJje1QJIR8Z2c7Kf8KBZxKnw_8EqU/edit#gid=0

I got different outputs on tire size route vs gps and like I said mine is spot on to the gps now going the GPS route. You'll have to do the PCM and TCM relearn afterwards to get the wrench off. Its simple just go back to the part where you pick which module youre going to change and one of the modules should say PCM reset/relearn or something to that effect, click go then do the TCM afterwards. I literally did all of this while sitting waiting in the carpool line before picking up one of the kids today so doesn't take long.