New here, phaser question.

[Alwhite00]

Just picked up a 2018 Expedition Limited, 97k. Slight rattle on startup. Nothing on the carfax saying the phasers were replaced. I’m looking at eventually replacing them but would like to do chains, tensioners, guides and whatever else is needed. Water pump? Oil pump?

I’m looking for either a parts list or a complete kit. Obviously the more economical the better, I don’t need oem but I don’t want temu either. I’m very mechanically inclined so I’m not worried about that part, just looking for some good quality replacement parts.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

 

[GixxerJasen]

Go OEM. Someone on here did a full write up on doing the phasers themselves a couple years ago, was quite detailed. I'd go find that thread and start there.

 

[Trainmaster]

It's about 10 hours' work.

Either use OEM parts or the second time you will.

 

[shelties-rock]

Just picked up a 2018 Expedition Limited, 97k. Slight rattle on startup. Nothing on the carfax saying the phasers were replaced. I’m looking at eventually replacing them but would like to do chains, tensioners, guides and whatever else is needed. Water pump? Oil pump?

I’m looking for either a parts list or a complete kit. Obviously the more economical the better, I don’t need oem but I don’t want temu either. I’m very mechanically inclined so I’m not worried about that part, just looking for some good quality replacement parts.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

I have the same problem on a 2019. I am not mechanical & mine is at the dealership as we speak. I hope my extended car warranty pays for this. Is there anything else associated w/phasers that need to be repaired at the same time typically?

 

[kjf1]

First thing I would do is disconnect the oil pump sensor at the bottom of the front cover.

 

[Alwhite00]

Disconnect sensor before starting the work or for some other reason?

 

[5280tunage]

I have the same problem on a 2019. I am not mechanical & mine is at the dealership as we speak. I hope my extended car warranty pays for this. Is there anything else associated w/phasers that need to be repaired at the same time typically?

I had them do the timing chain and associated timing components while they were in there for my second phaser swap.

 

[Fastcar]

Were it me I'd replace everything with oem. Anything that is questionable on your way in change it now while your there. Why do the same work twice.

 

[GixxerJasen]

Go OEM. Someone on here did a full write up on doing the phasers themselves a couple years ago, was quite detailed. I'd go find that thread and start there.

Heh, I didn't even bother to check but just now noticed at the bottom of the page is "Similar Threads" and there's the one I was referencing.

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Nice thing is that the new phaser parts seem to be doing the job. When I got my expedition, it seems like every other thread on here was phaser related. Now we just don't see them anymore except for the odd duck who has the old ones that managed to last a while. Not to be outdone though, the phaser threads have been replaced with the CDF Drum and bad transmission threads.

 

[HISHONOR]

Well, at 161,000 miles my 2018 Expy Limited started rattling the cam phasers at start up. Truck is at the dealer now who gave me a 20 yr. / 200,000 mile powertrain warranty at time of purchase and have diagnosed and confirmed the cam phasers need replacing. Meticulously maintained with complete paper records. Dealer is waiting for warranty company to review my maintenance records and inspect it. Getting my lawsuit against the warranty company ready because I'm sure they'll come up with some bogus reason to not honor the warranty.

 

[drankinatty]

I'd concur with OEM parts for everything except the Mellings high-volume oil pump. Not as critical on the 2018 models as on the Gen 2 3-valves, but the additional 10-15 psi of pressure at idle ensures everything stays plenty lubricated.

Chuckling at Hishonor doing the footwork for the inevitable dispute over the warranty claim. After 30 years of practice before the bench, it is almost a given that effort will not be wasted. If the username implies sitting on the bench, then it would appear our assessments of the potential for disagreement concur

 

[HISHONOR]

We concur, drankinatty. I sat for 20 years and now mediate mostly first party property insurance claims and arbitrate Ford transmission lemon law claims. I'm still waiting for the field adjuster to visit the dealer. I will update here when I have the decision from the warranty company but getting ready in the meantime.