Noise on cold start

[rick619]

My wife's 2019 has started making a noise on cold starts. I will attach the video I made this morning. Please advise if you know what might cause this. It is close to 50K miles.

2018 Expedition sound on cold start

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[bmk1]

My wife's 2019 has started making a noise on cold starts. I will attach the video I made this morning. Please advise if you know what might cause this. It is close to 50K miles.

2018 Expedition sound on cold start

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100% cam phasers.

 

[rick619]

100% cam phasers.

That's for the turbos? How much is it to fix usually?

My wife thinks there's a 60K, 5 year warranty on the engine and transmission. So not sure if this would be covered? We bought it new 3 years ago (it was sitting on the lot for a while).

 

[davep411]

There is 5yr 60k from time of purchase. See PDF. If you ware in warranty, just get it done since you'd be in year 5 right now.
That being said, when I had my cam phasers done on my 2018 F150, I was told Ford was moving coverage of cam phasers to the Emissions parts coverage which is 8 years, 80k miles. Call your dealer to verify coverage.

 

[bmk1]

There is 5yr 60k from time of purchase. See PDF. If you ware in warranty, just get it done since you'd be in year 5 right now.
That being said, when I had my cam phasers done on my 2018 F150, I was told Ford was moving coverage of cam phasers to the Emissions parts coverage which is 8 years, 80k miles. Call your dealer to verify coverage.

That's for the turbos? How much is it to fix usually?

My wife thinks there's a 60K, 5 year warranty on the engine and transmission. So not sure if this would be covered? We bought it new 3 years ago (it was sitting on the lot for a while).

its not the turbos. YouTube expedition cam phasers and you’ll find a million vids. I think mine was $3300 or so luckily I had some extended warrenty bc I was at like 72k miles and only one the thing for a month.

 

[bmk1]

Have them replace your thermostat to the updated one while they’re at it. Wish they would’ve done mine would’ve saved me a few hundred this week.

 

[rick619]

Dropping it off late tomorrow. They want it to be cold for the morning, makes sense.

 

[Bmac1955]

Mine were replaced at 35k in 2021. Mine is a 2019 Expedition XLT. I gave the Service Rep. a video I took. They wanted to verify the noise and kept it overnight. My vehicle was a turned in lease that I purchased and the warranty was still in effect. Needless to say was repaired under warranty. While purchasing vehicle I bought the Ford Protect warranty. The extended warranty is good till 2027 or 125k. At this posting I have 44k and have done Oil and Filter changes 4 x's already. I also do cold start flooding every morning as a precautionary measures. Good luck with your warranty claim.

 

[NevadaGeo]

Mine were replaced at 35k in 2021. Mine is a 2019 Expedition XLT. I gave the Service Rep. a video I took. They wanted to verify the noise and kept it overnight. My vehicle was a turned in lease that I purchased and the warranty was still in effect. Needless to say was repaired under warranty. While purchasing vehicle I bought the Ford Protect warranty. The extended warranty is good till 2027 or 125k. At this posting I have 44k and have done Oil and Filter changes 4 x's already. I also do cold start flooding every morning as a precautionary measures. Good luck with your warranty claim.

What is "cold start flooding"?

 

[Fastcar]

Mine were replaced at 35k in 2021. Mine is a 2019 Expedition XLT. I gave the Service Rep. a video I took. They wanted to verify the noise and kept it overnight. My vehicle was a turned in lease that I purchased and the warranty was still in effect. Needless to say was repaired under warranty. While purchasing vehicle I bought the Ford Protect warranty. The extended warranty is good till 2027 or 125k. At this posting I have 44k and have done Oil and Filter changes 4 x's already. I also do cold start flooding every morning as a precautionary measures. Good luck with your warranty claim.

Would you explain cold start flooding please and also why.

 

[Bmac1955]

Cold start flooding I use to start oil lubricating the engine before starting. Consist of holding brake pedal down along with a fully depressed gas pedal. After about 10 seconds take foot off the the gas pedal. I might suggest also to do oil changes at a regular interval. I do mine 2 to 3 thousand miles. That's just me. This site has many interesting points of interest. I am sure you find helpful points relating to your expedition. Good luck!

 

[Fastcar]

Cold start flooding I use to start oil lubricating the engine before starting. Consist of holding brake pedal down along with a fully depressed gas pedal. After about 10 seconds take foot off the the gas pedal. I might suggest also to do oil changes at a regular interval. I do mine 2 to 3 thousand miles. That's just me. This site has many interesting points of interest. I am sure you find helpful points relating to your expedition. Good luck!

I'd be concerned of a cylinder being washed with gas or oil dilution. But that's just me.

 

[Bmac1955]

I'd be concerned of a cylinder being washed with gas or oil dilution. But that's just me.

Not likely to happen. These aren't carburated engines.

 

[Fastcar]

Not likely to happen. These aren't carburated engines.

It would seem to me that you are dumping raw gas into the cyl.

 

[rick619]

Dealer confirmed cam phasers. It will be about a week to get the part in. Picking it up today until parts are in.

 

[bmk1]

Dealer confirmed cam phasers. It will be about a week to get the part in. Picking it up today until parts are in.

Make sure they do the thermostat so you don’t have to take it right back. I just got mine back from thermostat replacement today $260.

 

[Hellwig]

Make sure they do the thermostat so you don’t have to take it right back. I just got mine back from thermostat replacement today $260.

My local dealership quoted me 3 hours labor charge to replace thermostat, for a total of $567 excluding parts. I think it is insane.

 

[Fastcar]

My local dealership quoted me 3 hours labor charge to replace thermostat, for a total of $567 excluding parts. I think it is insane.

That is incidental to the work. They are already there.

 

[rick619]

Make sure they do the thermostat so you don’t have to take it right back. I just got mine back from thermostat replacement today $260.

What's wrong with the thermostat? It's my wife's Expedition and she's very cheap lol. Doubt she would do it unless there's a really good reason.

 

[JamaicaJoe]

Cold start flooding I use to start oil lubricating the engine before starting. Consist of holding brake pedal down along with a fully depressed gas pedal. After about 10 seconds take foot off the the gas pedal. I might suggest also to do oil changes at a regular interval. I do mine 2 to 3 thousand miles. That's just me. This site has many interesting points of interest. I am sure you find helpful points relating to your expedition. Good luck!