If the tablet was flush with the top of the dash it would look nice. It looks like a 17 yr old did an aftermarket install in that pic. Not a fan of the new style vents either. Looks like Ford is coping Bowtie with that we just threw this big a$$ ipad on the dash B.S. Those black rims however in that 2d URL are NICE!
Refreshed Ford Expedition?
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Its the exact same as the 2021 f150s tach
Deadman
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The gauges in my wifes 18 Navigator are an embarrassment in my eyes. They are plain and gross looking. I still can't read the gas gauge, it makes no sense and its red which I'm colorblind to. Sure hope they don't think this is an upgrade.....
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I personally hope Ford invested more in to the autonomous driving experience and perhaps give a level 2 experience. The Expedition really lags here, lane keep doesn’t keep you centered enough in my opinion. Volvo, Honda, Cadillac, many other manufacturers have much better systems where you can comfortably let go of the wheel and cruise. Not sure if this is just an expedition thing or all of Ford but with a huge SUV the lane keep and overall highway experience should feel more automated. The auto cruise works great but for the love of god keep me centered on those winding roads!
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Lane keep assist and lane centering are two very different features. The expeditions advertise as lane keep assist, so it won’t try correcting until you are about to leave or have left the lane. Lane centering is what you are asking for and Ford has it for other models.
I have wondered if they actually have different hardware to do this or if it a matter of programming. Both the auto-steering and line detection are present. The question is if the processor, camera accuracy, and auto-steer duty cycle could handle it.
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Thank you, “Lane Centering”! Most mid level to higher end cars redesigned in 2018 or later have this, especially at this price point.
Our 2018 Acura MDX redesigned in 2014 (I think) has this capability.
Perhaps you’ve hit the nail on the head with the hardware. The accuracy of the system does feel a little off by a good foot or two so perhaps that’s the issue.
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It’s mind boggling I believe you also need to get the High Country Tahoe or High Country Suburban to get all the safety features even in the new 2021!
I guess large SUV / truck buyers don’t care for that...
Without full self driving, I don’t think self centering, lane keeping is worth much. What do you guys do? Drink a lot? Have narcolepsy? My Expy’s pretty easy to drive between the lines.
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Others hit on the head. Centering and Keep are 2 different systems. They are mostly hardware(processor and camera) differences. Obviously software too.
The 2020’s are starting to see some changes in preparation for Centering. The camera appears to be the same as the 19’s, but the processor is different, and more capable. Hence the changes for FORSCAN and so forth.
Ford is VERY methodical about autonomous features. They do not want any of the issues that other manufacturers have had.
They have slowly integrated them, and when they do, they typically make many of them available even in lower end models. Sometimes as an option. GM and others make you bump up to get them.
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The 2020’s are starting to see some changes in preparation for Centering. The camera appears to be the same as the 19’s, but the processor is different, and more capable. Hence the changes for FORSCAN and so forth.
Ford is VERY methodical about autonomous features. They do not want any of the issues that other manufacturers have had.
They have slowly integrated them, and when they do, they typically make many of them available even in lower end models. Sometimes as an option. GM and others make you bump up to get them.
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I use Centering on the Highway in the Explorer a fair bit. I like it. It does a really good job. It kinda smooths things out. No problem doing it manually but it definitely works.
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Not in my Expy yet. But in my F-150 I was caught in a major snow storm at night. I couldn’t see crap. Luckily the lane camera could see better than I could. I used the little bar graph at the bottom of the gauge cluster to navigate the road. I was super surprised. But most of the time it drives me crazy.
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Let's see if they include defroster grids for the LED headlight lenses. Seems like a major safety issue when the LED headlights ice over since they don't produce enough heat to melt ice/snow on the lenses.
Ours neither, but they added it with the New Explorers in 2020, so as would assume this Expedition refresh will have it too.
I had a similar experience in Fog with my previous Edge. Helped.
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Didn’t know this was a thing. Just bought ours and about to go into winter. Any tips to keep ice off? RainX work?
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Seems like the heated lenses are happening first for heavy trucks (https://www.jwspeaker.com/smartheat-heated-led-lights/). For the rest of us, sounds like trying Rain X deicer or similar may be worth a try. Others recommend using WD40, but I can't bring myself to spray WD40 on my headlights since it will strip wax off of anything that it drips on.
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