Self Levelling? Platinum with tow package.
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aggiegrad05
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In the short month I’ve had mine, with the 4wd, I’ve had it in 4A most of the time because it’s rained a LOT. Keep in mind I live in Dallas so it’s not like I live down a dirt road. These ecoboosts are so torquey that the back end has broken loose several times on slippery roads. I have been really pleased/impressed how quickly and seamlessly the 4A recognized what was happening and kicked the front wheels in. There’s also a little display in the dash which will show power distribution in real time and it’s pretty cool.
All of that to say: no, the 4wd is absolutely not necessary if you’re keeping it on pavement (and maybe even if you’re not) but it has been nice to have. I just got it because I’d hate to have spent this much and then wish I had checked that box given that it’s not something you can add later if you change your mind (like rear seat entertainment or something). If you didn’t get it I doubt you’ll miss it.
Dorzak
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Depending on weather/road conditions the 4x4 adds the 4A option for all wheel driving on the road, or at least it does on the 2016.
In Sacramento we go long dry periods, and then the roads are slick for the first 1-2 days of rain. Also we have had some ice on the roads in the area when I leave for work at 4:30 AM. I have used 4A as a precaution, and it feels like it sticks to the road.
There is a video from FORD of all people pitting the new Expy against the suburban. The Expy is squatting like crazy with the trailer hooked up. This was one of a few reasons why i bought my tahoe instead of the new expy.
shane_th_ee
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The video (below) isn't from Ford but it has a couple of guys from Ford doing the testing. And yes the expedition is sagging way more than the Suburban. They also mention the Expedition pulls the load about the same as the much less powered Suburban. As I said before in this thread, with the new model Ford sacrificed capability for added comfort. I'm gonna run out into the garage and tell my 17 model how much I love her
20hp=much less powered?
I would disagree the expedition is sagging "way more"
If you watch their Ike gauntlet torture test w/ 7,000lb trailer. The expedition has the best score of ANY SUV.
Unless you are towing everyday, I wouldn’t sacrifice the comfort of the family for something we do 12 times a year. The expedition rides so much better than the GMs.
I would disagree the expedition is sagging "way more"
If you watch their Ike gauntlet torture test w/ 7,000lb trailer. The expedition has the best score of ANY SUV.
Unless you are towing everyday, I wouldn’t sacrifice the comfort of the family for something we do 12 times a year. The expedition rides so much better than the GMs.
Suburban = 355hp 383tq
Expedition = 375hp 470tq
Yes I would say the Suburban overall is much less powered
Let me explain
Torque is a rotating force produced by an engine’s crankshaft. The more torque an engine produces, the greater its ability to perform work.
With almost 100 more ftlbs of torque and 4 more gears to chose from the Expedition should have towed better than the Suburban period.
And I don't care if you disagree or not. If you cant tell the Expedition is sagging a lot more then the Suburban you need to get your eyes checked or update the prescription on your glasses. The Suburban is damn near level the entire time and the Expy is clearly not.
You make it sound like every model prior to 18 is riding around on wagon wheels or something. Sacrifice the comfort of your family are you serious!!!!! Ive had no complaints from my family of 5 concerning the comfort of the ride when towing or not.
Expedition = 375hp 470tq
Yes I would say the Suburban overall is much less powered
Let me explain
Torque is a rotating force produced by an engine’s crankshaft. The more torque an engine produces, the greater its ability to perform work.
With almost 100 more ftlbs of torque and 4 more gears to chose from the Expedition should have towed better than the Suburban period.
And I don't care if you disagree or not. If you cant tell the Expedition is sagging a lot more then the Suburban you need to get your eyes checked or update the prescription on your glasses. The Suburban is damn near level the entire time and the Expy is clearly not.
You make it sound like every model prior to 18 is riding around on wagon wheels or something. Sacrifice the comfort of your family are you serious!!!!! Ive had no complaints from my family of 5 concerning the comfort of the ride when towing or not.
I think he meant comfort in regards to the suburban. Regardless, many testers have towed and compared back to back the gm amd expys and regardless of squat, the expy is a better tow vehicle, and more comfortable doin it.
LOL, why you mad bro?
Power and torque are two different things! So my reply to power between the two stands! If you had said, pulled the same as the suburban, with much less torque......... that would have been correct.
And yes, as dlcorbett deduced, I was speaking in relation to the GM, the only other vehicle mentioned in the discussions quoted!! But I will throw ANY SUV into that statement. Why would anyone choose a vehicle that squats less but has an inferior ride unless you tow more than transport family? I drive my family around 365days a year and tow maybe 12-20 times MAX. That would make no sense.
So...............enjoy yours, I’ll enjoy mine.
twernst
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Congratulations! Please share the deal you got in the pricing discussion, if you are comfortable.
twernst
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FYI the Expy in that video is a 301 without CCD, I am not sure about the Burban, but that may be a reason for the extra squat on the Expy. Would love to see CCD Expy next to a non-CCD with same loads.
Excuses excuses. The CCD is not load leveling. It wasn't in previous models and its certainly not in the new ones. Ever wonder why its standard on the models with the 22" wheels? Because its there to counteract the harshness in ride you get from the lower profile tires. Even in sport mode when the suspension is at its stiffest it may reduce sag by a fraction but its not going to level the load and raise it back up. Plus who wants to ride around with 500-1000lbs of tongue weight in sport mode
Scottorama
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Ford dropped the ball not offering the self leveling option. Hell, even Dodge pickups now offer a self leveling option.....pretty sad when Dodge , with their pickups that have not been redesigned in years, have better suspension designs than a brand new Ford.
Like I said earlier you need to get your eyes checked. In the gauntlet test theyre using a weight distribution hitch. In the versus video with the Suburban theyre not. Again the CCD has nothing to do with lack of squat, its the hitch.
twernst
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Thank you for the education. I am not an engineer nor do I tow nearly enough to understand that difference. I was just offering a thought. Obviously I was wrong as have illuminated.
Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy
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