all i know is the wifey and daughters will be gone for 4 days in the beginning of october, and i will be just me and my 3 year old son. so i think i am going to make a trip up there. got a buddy with an FJ that might go too. we could go up there, just play around a little, and watch some of the big boys play in the mud. i am looking into beefin this truck up with better front end components, new gears, and LOCKERS!!!!!