Those who have Extended Service Plans (ESP)

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LanceExp2025

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I too have had Fords since 1988 w/ ESP Premium's. Getting Warranty work done has never been a battle, exactly, but I found the service writers are always trying to side-step their/Fords responsibilities under warranty and get me to pay for it, out of pocket. I just ask to speak directly to the "Service Manager" and discuss my ESP Premium Plan. Once there, the service manager often says, "this service writer is new and was just mistaken, we will fix it under warranty". I believe this is just their game to make extra money at the expense of our ignorance of the ESP policies we bought. I would bet that it may work 40-50% of the time, in their favor, don't know?

We live in Ventura, CA and only once, did I have a problem that my daughter experienced when her 1997 Ranger PU (under ESP Premium - 6 year/60,000 mile warranty) just shut off in the middle of the road in San Luis Obispo, CA (at college, 160 miles away). She called me and we had her Ford Ranger PU towed to the nearest Ford dealer by AAA for repair. It was 1 year old and had ESP Premium Care but they found that the electrical problem was caused by the alarm system which had killed the ignition and starter cranking. They were going to charge us $450 to disable the alarm, bypass the wiring back to stock and remove the alarm module from under the dash. I explained to the SLO Ford Dealer "Service Manager" that this alarm system was installed by the selling Ford Dealer and they had told me (one of their sales incentives) that the big advantage of the "Ford" alarm system was that it was a Ford part and did NOT effect the warranty. The Service Manager said, sorry, you must pay us $450.00 for this work and take that up with your selling dealership. Under the circumstances that my daughter needed her car back to get to college classes, I agreed and reluctantly paid the $450 bill but I told them that I wanted the removed Ford Alarm Module & wiring that they removed, to be given back to my daughter at pick-up of her Ford Ranger, from them. That was agreed to and done.

I then called my selling Ford Dealer and was given the "phone run-around" by them. I then wrote a nice but very direct letter (and sent it to them by "Registered Mail") to that selling dealer's owner and demanded that they return our $450 within 10 days. I also sent a copy of the SLO Dealer's repair invoice and a picture of the Alarm Module to this Selling Dealer. The owner's secretary called me and asked if I still had the removed defective Alarm Module. I said, yes, and she asked me to bring it into their dealership for inspection. The following Friday, I took this alarm module into the selling dealership and showed it to them. It was the Alarm Module that they had installed w/ a FORD logo, part number & serial number. They confirmed by our sales contract, all of this was true and wrote me a check for the $450.00. They wanted to keep the defective Alarm Module but I said I wanted to keep it until their check cleared my bank then, I would bring it back to them, which was agreed to. Their check cleared and I never heard from them again so, never had to give them the defective module back. (I just wanted to keep it in case they 'Stopped Payment' on the check they had given me and we ended up in small claims court - [I hoped NOT court though]). As it turns out, they were honorable, it seems.

So, that's my 2 cents worth on warranty experiences. I think the burden of proof of Warranty Coverages has unfortunately become us, the vehicle owners responsibility to get enforce. Shouldn't be that way but that seems to be how life is these days, Lance
 

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I'm just inside of 2 months remaining on the first ESP PremiumCare contract for my 2017 Expy. It is 96 month. 100K mile (only have 57K now). The contract was purchased in 2020 and times out May 23 2025.

The way the existing ESP reads is 96 total months and 100K total miles from in service / delivery date / 0 miles and confirms plan expiration of 5/23/2025,

Now the question. I got pricing from Ziegler (below) and when looking it over and talking to them I asked why they only offered plans up to 72 months, as my truck was already 94 months old. Their response was that that number of months and mileage being purchased was on top of age and mileage of the vehicle at the time of purchase.

This statement is the opposite of my current contract which counts from zero age and mileage. I can't find much online that talks about the details of a second ESP being purchased.

Does anyone who has purchased a second Ford ESP for their vehicle have contract details that confirm what Ziegler told me? If so can you post or PM me showing the terms of the 2nd ESP being different than what I have listed below?

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I was lead to believe by Ziegler that if I have an existing, unexpired ESP when purchasing the new ESP, that the inspection is waived. Anyone know if this is fact?
According to Ziegler's website there is no inspection if you're still within the unexpired ESP warranty. https://www.zeiglerfordesp.com/vehicle-eligibility/
 

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Everyone. As always, thank you for all of the valuable input! This is what makes this site and the information we all share so valuable and important

I got prices from Flood Ford (who wrote my previous contract) and Ziegler. Ziegler's online price for adding 72 months and 50K miles with $50.00 deductible was lower than (call to Flood rep) price for same term with $100 deductible by about $160.

When I called Ziegler, they offered an additional $275 discount to make the purchase today. $3335.00 + an additional $80.00 for key coverage, even though I can buy FOBS online for $60 and program myself, for $80 over 6 years, why not get genuine OEM Key FOBs?

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Welp, definitely got absolute crap for service from Ford customer care and/or Ford Protect sales on trying to get information on extending my coverage. They are so helpful! Their IVR even told me they were too busy and gave me an option of leaving a message or hanging up. Guess I'll call Flood and maybe Ziegler.
 

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Welp, definitely got absolute crap for service from Ford customer care and/or Ford Protect sales on trying to get information on extending my coverage. They are so helpful! Their IVR even told me they were too busy and gave me an option of leaving a message or hanging up. Guess I'll call Flood and maybe Ziegler.
Ford Customer Care quotes are higher for some reason. Last Saturday I called 2 nearby Ford dealerships to purchase a Ford warranty. One of them is where I purchased my Expy and the call was placed on hold by the receptionist and I waited forever, finally hung up. The other dealership's finance/warranty person claimed it would take time to access Ford's warranty program and get me a quote. He tried selling me one from Zurich. No thanks. Next I called Ziegler and it went to voice mail 3 different times before someone (Jamie) answered. Bought a warranty! Easy process. Supposedly the prices increase April 2.
 

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Ford Customer Care quotes are higher for some reason. Last Saturday I called 2 nearby Ford dealerships to purchase a Ford warranty. One of them is where I purchased my Expy and the call was placed on hold by the receptionist and I waited forever, finally hung up. The other dealership's finance/warranty person claimed it would take time to access Ford's warranty program and get me a quote. He tried selling me one from Zurich. No thanks. Next I called Ziegler and it went to voice mail 3 different times before someone (Jamie) answered. Bought a warranty! Easy process. Supposedly the prices increase April 2.
Why do they increase? Tarriffs?
 

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Why do they increase? Tarriffs?
Great question. Could be that or rising costs of repair labor and parts. Ford normally does 1 annual increase but this time it's 2 increases in a year. Double digit % increases. Found 12% and 25% in other forums. Curious how much. Already bought a warranty 2 days ago and will compare it to a new online quick quote tomorrow.
 

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I heard 15%, and the price increase was going to be effective April 1. Whether April 1 or 2, I was not going to wait and pay hundreds of dollars more even though my existing contract expires May23rd.
 

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Ziegler just gave me a quote which was actually fine, i'm fine with doing it but it requires me to cancel the active premiumcare plan. Guess it's best to just wait till closer to my Nov expiration date? I think you get a pro-rated amount back when you cancel but it will be so little, might as well just wait i guess? recommendations from the group?
 

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I think it comes down to the for month cost. For me I was giving up 53 days of prepaid warranty, in exchange for what would be an approximate (unknown until tomorrow) price increase. Assuming 15%, it was more than $500, so it made sense to pull the trigger now

If my warranty still had 8 months on it, I would not have done it. But that is me……..
 
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I bought through Two Rivers Ford, Joel Hawley, gives a nice discount for Explorer forum members. I just renewed my ESP for the Explorer right before it expired and I didn't have to get another inspection. Also I I think I paid around $2,900 for coverage on the Expy up to 100K, $50 deductible. No key service, but got the lighting and the rentals.
 
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