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TexasAngel34

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Ok first it started with the 4wd not engaging and the light not going off... now its the speedo working on n off... the abs light goes on n off... was told it was the solinoid on the transfer case for the 4wd switching in n out but now my air ride is not working in conjunction with everything else...

Heres what happens...

The speedo dont work
The 4wd Lo light goes on
The abs light goes on
The gas to empty dont light up

Now when all this works its works together when one goes out they all go out..

WTH???? WHats going on... HELP....
 

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Have you ruled out the GEM module? That is the first thing I think of when weird electrical things start happening.
 

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Ok i have no idea what the GEM is ... ??? Yea i feel stupid now

Generic Electronic Module. It piggybacks the interior fuse block and controls/monitors many electronic sub systems.

I would also consider checking your grounds as a bad connection somewhere could effect multiple systems.
 

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Here is a schematic of just some of the systems the gem module directly effects. Notice most of the systems your having issues with are identified.

It is looking more likely it may be the root cause of your issues. Could you have gotten it wet inside on your last mud outing?
 

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Yea im thinking so .... i know the mud was so bad i had to drench it pretty bad with the hose to get it off... do i replace the gem or what... how xo i test it to see if thats the problem most of all where is it... my roommate said he will look at it... i heard it has to be dried out somehow...
 

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Yea im thinking so .... i know the mud was so bad i had to drench it pretty bad with the hose to get it off... do i replace the gem or what... how xo i test it to see if thats the problem most of all where is it... my roommate said he will look at it... i heard it has to be dried out somehow...

It piggybacks the interior fuse block. Drivers side leftside under the dash.

Unfortunately I do not know of anyway to confirm if it is the issue or not.

I would highly recommend if you do go through the trouble to remove it you also remove the fuse block as well and dry them both out completely. When I had issues I removed both and water actually poured out of the fuse block on removal. I then set both near a pellet stove for 24 hours to completely dry them out. This fixed my issues upon re-installation.

Heres a link to my thread when I had gem/fuse block issues...

http://www.expeditionforum.com/f16/interesting-issue-14336/
 
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Ok tom... well ita def a pain trying to get to it... i will have him remove both ... so dry them out for 24 hrs... idont have a pellet stove but i have a portable heater i can use... i will go to the glass place and have them check for leaks as well... is there anything to help stop this lsaking problem im heafing of.... thanks again youve been such a great help...
 

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Its commonly associated with a windshield leak but it is my opinion it could be leakage past the door weather stripping as well or possibly the engine bay if sprayed directly. There are several penetrations for wiring, cables, etc... that could potentially leak.
 
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Hmmmmmmm..... well im gonna dry it out even though i see no moisture just to be safe...
 
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Well some of fhe stuff is working now ... def gonna replace the solinoid on the transfer case and the switch to be safe...air ride finally started after we put the gem back in
 

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let me know what still isnt working and i will will tell u what else to look for i have replaced everything on my truck from the ecu to the gem to just about everyother sensor then i removed everything i didnt need to make it run or power the stereo/lighting so let me know what u made need i have 2 other expos for parts so i may have what u need if u need to replace anything else minus any 4wd parts lol i slam not lift not that im against lifted trucks i prefer to keep my center of gravity as low as possible
 
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Ok thanks... everything except the air ride is still acting up here and there...been to cold to put in the new solinoid off the case... hoping to get it working soon... truck rides so diff now
 

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lol yea i bet probably a lil bouncy n the rear anyway just let me know if u need anything
 
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Its working wahooooooo!!!!! It turned out that the cylinder motor on the back of the transfer case was bad .. changed and now all is up and running great... still gotta do a few things to the dash but everything is a goooooo!!!! Thanks for all the help...
 
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