Tow Package or No?

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Just wanted to give everyone an update - I went for the base 200A with the tow package today. Ended up almost $11k under MSRP after all rebates for a truck that had sat on their lot for quite a while (100+ days).

I looked hard at another one with 202A + tow package + sunroof + drivers assistance package. A smaller budge by the dealer on that one off MSRP. Altogether, the net difference between what I bought and this one would have been almost $8.3k.

The argument that finally swayed me was the thought that I might one day want to get a larger boat - also 100% agree you can never have enough cooling when towing. That plus the savings made it an easier decision. Cant always get what you want but sometimes you get what you need.

Thank you all for the sound advice!

 

[5150 pops]

Did a little research and the transmission cooler is the same for both tow and non-tow packages. It is a heat exchanger that is mounted right between the trans pan and the torque convertor. There is a difference in the radiators with the heavy duty unit being cheaper than the standard unit.
https://parts.autonationfordwhitebe...oling-system-cat/radiator-and-components-scat

That thar, is dedication!!!!!
Thanks for sharing the details.

 

[5150 pops]

Just wanted to give everyone an update - I went for the base 200A with the tow package today. Ended up almost $11k under MSRP after all rebates for a truck that had sat on their lot for quite a while (100+ days).

I looked hard at another one with 202A + tow package + sunroof + drivers assistance package. A smaller budge by the dealer on that one off MSRP. Altogether, the net difference between what I bought and this one would have been almost $8.3k.

The argument that finally swayed me was the thought that I might one day want to get a larger boat - also 100% agree you can never have enough cooling when towing. That plus the savings made it an easier decision. Cant always get what you want but sometimes you get what you need.

Thank you all for the sound advice!

So sayeth Jagger, glad you are happy with your decision. Did you go STD or Max, and where dah pics????

 

[BenG]

Just wanted to give everyone an update - I went for the base 200A with the tow package today. Ended up almost $11k under MSRP after all rebates for a truck that had sat on their lot for quite a while (100+ days).

I looked hard at another one with 202A + tow package + sunroof + drivers assistance package. A smaller budge by the dealer on that one off MSRP. Altogether, the net difference between what I bought and this one would have been almost $8.3k.

The argument that finally swayed me was the thought that I might one day want to get a larger boat - also 100% agree you can never have enough cooling when towing. That plus the savings made it an easier decision. Cant always get what you want but sometimes you get what you need.

Thank you all for the sound advice!

Could you please post the IPC code that you have? I have a base xlt 200A 4xx4 without tow package and I installed the IBC by myself and so far I have not figure out the code to enabling the IBC.

 

[BenG]

I did a bit of research and found that the latest Forscan release does not support configure/program IPC module on 2018 Expedition yet.


Re: 2018 Expedition IPC Module Write Issues

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Post by CodeMusic » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:05 am

While FDRS is a cloud-based system that is just for the software access. It is just a matter of time until we understand the new protocol and can have an updated ForScan; however, it is more difficult with the source software being cloud-based. However, if an employee monitored pin activity while running actions they could come up with a mapping that could, in turn, be used for an FDRS protocol implementation into ForScan.

Lots of fun work ahead (as a developer).
That all said,
I have heard some success writing to certain modules and success with reading with the current ForScan... which suggests some of the traditional protocols may still be in place. However, I am nervous to hook up my ELM327... I guess for a test read wouldn't hurt, to at least see if I get that far.

 

[Uturn]

I have reconfigured several modules on the 2018(BCM,APIM,SCCM). The only one that I could not write to so far is the IPC module, it just rejects the write. Doesn't hurt anything.

 

[BenG]

Unfortunately, enabling IBC is under IPC(if I am not mistaken)

 

[Uturn]

Unfortunately, enabling IBC is under IPC(if I am not mistaken)

Unfortunately it is and means a trip to the dealer to activate. It should still be less than having them do a complete brake controller install.

 

[BenG]

Unfortunately it is and means a trip to the dealer to activate. It should still be less than having them do a complete brake controller install.

True, that's what I am trying to do next.

 

[5150 pops]

FWIW, it's dag near winter, how much towing you two plan on doing the next 4-5 months? I'd take the wait and see approach, to give the keyboard jockeys at Forscan time to "catch up".

 

[JohnT]

+1

When mine eventually falls of the carousel at Chicago and makes it's way here, I will fit it and wait till spring if required. Might see if a few bucks in cash proffered to the dealer tech makes anything happen at next oil change / service but otherwise I will bide my time

 

[JohnT]

So the unit arrived but it is just the module with a bunch of connectors, doesn't include the dash portion.

 

[5150 pops]

So the unit arrived but it is just the module with a bunch of connectors, doesn't include the dash portion.

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What do you mean, the dash portion? I'm trying to understand, because I would NOT think a different dash fascia would be necessary, as whether your vehicle comes with tbc from factory or not, it would seem the dash provision would be the same. Others who've I've read, that retrofitted the tbc, mentioned removing the cubby, via a screw or two, which are located behind the rubber liner, if I remember correctly.

 

[JohnT]

I mean the actual controller buttons and sliders that you use aren't supplied.

 

[5150 pops]

I mean the actual controller buttons and sliders that you use aren't supplied.

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Blasphemy!!!!
So wtf do they give you for a few hundred USD?

 

[gtncpa]

I wonder what goes in the passenger cubby. Maybe something in the top trims.

 

[JExpedition07]

I wonder what goes in the passenger cubby. Maybe something in the top trims.

Even on the King Ranch and platinums it’s still a cubbie on the 3rd gens

 

[Uturn]

I didn't realize it took two components for the brake controller. I took the time to look up the actual dash switch. What a pain. Here is the number JL3Z-2C006-AA

 

[JohnT]

Blasphemy!!!!
So wtf do they give you for a few hundred USD?

A metal box with several square connectors attached to a mounting bracket. So basically the control module is separate to the switch gear.

 

[JohnT]

I didn't realize it took two components for the brake controller. I took the time to look up the actual dash switch. What a pain. Here is the number JL3Z-2C006-AA

I'm guessing there is wiring as well? because the controller is just the box, no wiring, no looms and if the switch assembly arrives same then we are still missing bits.

It's - 22C here so I'm not shlepping out to a breakers to disassemble an f-150 to check