Wait for 2018, or buy 2017 Expy
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powerboatr
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i did my jd power survey 30 days after i purchased and just recently was asked to update the 6 months of ownership
i ranked the expy high in almost everything and wrote real comments on the few items that are quirky, but in no way reflect quality or lack of...
but ford never rates high, and the answer is they dont buy blocks of advertising from sellout publications.
i used the similar approach and read forums and crawled all over several models and brands.
still came back to ford,
those commercials are hilarious
i ranked the expy high in almost everything and wrote real comments on the few items that are quirky, but in no way reflect quality or lack of...
but ford never rates high, and the answer is they dont buy blocks of advertising from sellout publications.
i used the similar approach and read forums and crawled all over several models and brands.
still came back to ford,
those commercials are hilarious
I'm in the same boat. I have an 02 excursion and the wife has a 15 expy El. She's tired of me working on my excursion (320k miles 7.3l so it needs love), but apparently I have to rebuild her expedition to add the power folding mirrors to it. That's the only thing that our current Expedition is missing.
So what's a good OTD price for a 17 limited? I've seen some decent deals for about $52k as an advertised price, but I'd really like to be OTD for close to $50k. Sales tax here in CO sucks at 8.25% so I have to keep that in mind too.
So what's a good OTD price for a 17 limited? I've seen some decent deals for about $52k as an advertised price, but I'd really like to be OTD for close to $50k. Sales tax here in CO sucks at 8.25% so I have to keep that in mind too.
ExpeditionAndy
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I caught a sale on my Limited EL $100 below factory invoice. I had $5,250 in cash rebates, and I got a decent price on my trade. I was at $56,129 before tax. I figure all together without the trade I got $7,867 off the sticker. Or about 11.75% off the sticker.
Ok. Were you upside down on your trade? I have an offer right now for a limited EL with 301 package, BLIS, second row buckets, and load leveling for $52434 before taxes and trade. I really wanted to be OTD for that price, but asking another 8 percent may be too much for them 
jeff kushner
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Copied from my original post:
I bought the Limited with:
The Appearance package
1. Control Trac® Four-Wheel-Drive System (be careful 4WD is NOT standard on any model!!)
- 2. Option package 301a,-includes:
Power moonroof
Power-deployable running boards
Voice-Activated Navigation System with HD Radio™
3. The Blind Spot Information System
4. All-weather rubber first- and second-row floor mats in addition to the carpeted ones
5. Available Navigation with SiriusXM Traffic and SiriusXM Travel Link® option
6. Platinum tri-metalic paint option.
7. Second-row flip-fold manual reclining bucket seats
8. 20" magnetic painted wheels
9. Probably stuff I'm forgetting but you experts can prob tell by looking?
I think the total options was $6,700?? The total sticker was 68,700 before a $615 "value discount" whatever that is<LMSO>!
OTD price was $53,890.00. That’s taxes(Sales in MD is 6%), Registration, tags, freight, docs etc. I ordered ZERO adds from the finance guy, no extended warranties, no tire warranties, no paint warranties no warranties on warranties...you get the idea. Those are ALWAYS sky-high money makers so like Nancy Reagan used to say...."Just say no". Besides, you can always buy whatever they are trying to sell later, much cheaper(I saw a product in his office called "resistall" but he didn't try to sell me...saw it on Ebay for 25 bucks, all 5 bottles)My guess is that they would have charged hundreds!
I used Fords money @ 1.9% and got another $3,700 off the cost where as I wouldn't have gotten that if I had gone the 0% option I had. The delta on their 1.9 money was $2,200 so I got an added 1500 off the truck and can always pay it off even earlier to get out of the finance costs! At the very last minute, I gave them 5 grand to lower the amount financed.
Obviously, my credit is stellar so I could pick and choose how I paid for it. It's a good position to be in but I have been where a lot of others are too but my GF bought a new Rogue last year and got 0% money from Nissan and she's a teacher with good credit so they will bend if you don't have perfect credit but hold your ground while at the same time let them know that you are serious about buying a truck!
Good luck! They should be cheaper now, I would think.
ExpeditionAndy
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I got $3,000 in trade for my 05 which I felt was fair considering the shape it was in, rusted out rockers, floorboards, and radiator supports, bubbling paint on the liftgate and hood.Ok. Were you upside down on your trade? I have an offer right now for a limited EL with 301 package, BLIS, second row buckets, and load leveling for $52434 before taxes and trade. I really wanted to be OTD for that price, but asking another 8 percent may be too much for them
My sticker price was $66,996 out the door price was $59,655.80. We paid cash so there was no finance charges to deal with. We have 7% sales tax in Indiana so we paid $4,496.53 in sales tax, $30 processing fee, $149.95 doc fee.
jeff kushner
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That's pretty funny.....nearly made me spit my coffee onto the monitor this morning!
jeff
Flexpedition
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What does this even mean?
Got an up-close and personal look at a 2018 prototype this weekend. Its a very impressive truck and looks much better in person than it does in pictures.
ExpeditionAndy
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It looks a lot like a Chevy Suburban, at least from the pictures.
Flexpedition
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ExpeditionAndy
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Haha! Its tough comparing the short wheel base version to the Suburban but you can definitely see the influence.
ford def stole the doors from the gms. my guess...to make the expy as quiet or wuieter than the gm trucks since they use "in laid" doors on all their trucks. i can see why though, the gms are a bit quieter than the ford counterparts.
Just seems Ford cannot come out with their own original redesigned models. The '18 looks just like the new Suburbans. And the F250/F350 looks like a Silverado in some ways. Glad I got the '16 before the design change. Not impressed by 2018 model
Whats wrong with it looking like the chevy? I love the way the tahoe looks. Best looking SUV IMO, the problem is they are junk. So a higher quality SUV that looks like the tahoe? i am going to buy the 2018 no doubt.
Heres some interesting facts for the 18:
- fx4 package is comin back
- 2nd row leg room up but 1st and 3rd row down
- 9.6in of ground clearnance(nav specs)
- reverse tilt mirrors are comin back(nav specs)
- expy std seats are now 6 way(guess to keep the price down)
- fx4 package is comin back
- 2nd row leg room up but 1st and 3rd row down
- 9.6in of ground clearnance(nav specs)
- reverse tilt mirrors are comin back(nav specs)
- expy std seats are now 6 way(guess to keep the price down)
jeff kushner
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I'm a single guy and while I've got lots of room up front to stretch my legs, I never would have bought my truck had I not been able to stretch out completely. After two ACL's and 15 scope jobs all to my left knee....being able to stretch isn't a want for me, it's a "need".
I'm surprised that they didn't keep the front as it is and add a little more to the 3rd row since it's a "lost seat" anyway. I keep it upright but often need to drop them to bring more than a half dozen grocery bags home. It look like all the manufacturers are in a rush to show everyone that they have tons of 2nd row room...but at the expense of the 1st row?!?
jeff
Bigbadbull
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I Don't know what your area dealers are offering, but in most of the South East the dealers are are getting $7000 rebates from Ford with some smaller $1000 add ons, and in some areas like Nashville its closer to $11000 on the 2017's ( yet Louisville where they are built is like $2250?). I was looking at new 2017's but had a hard time finding a limited 300a package Limited with BLIS in the colors that the wife wanted. Ended up with a super low mileage 2016 Kingranch. Between the rebates and many dealer starting at dealer invoice for the pricing, there are some awesome deals on the 2017's.
We had a 2016 limited Explorer that had all the high tech features on it, and to be honest, we are digging the Expedition more than the Explorer so far. The Trim, softtouch plastics, and build quality is alot higher, yet does have 80% of the high tech features the Explorer did. Wife only really misses the front end camra that was part of the never used self parking feature. THe 2018 looks like an over stuffed Explorer and has most of the electronics from it as well.
Tough call if you like the stylizing of the 2018, vs the big savings on the 2017's
We had a 2016 limited Explorer that had all the high tech features on it, and to be honest, we are digging the Expedition more than the Explorer so far. The Trim, softtouch plastics, and build quality is alot higher, yet does have 80% of the high tech features the Explorer did. Wife only really misses the front end camra that was part of the never used self parking feature. THe 2018 looks like an over stuffed Explorer and has most of the electronics from it as well.
Tough call if you like the stylizing of the 2018, vs the big savings on the 2017's
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