What oil filter do I need?

[Eric]

I am going to change the engine oil for the first time since I bought my 2005 Expy. The prior owner used synthetic oil so I am going to use it as well, Mobil 1 is what I got. Anyway I am trying to confirm the proper oil filter for the 5.4 engine, the one that is on it is all white and has no markings. I checked a Fram book at Walmart and it says PH8 or PH2 depending on the thread size, can anyone confirm what the proper part # is for the Fram extraguard filter I need?

 

[nvycrmn]

usually it will tell you which one for which engine. never seen 2 with different thread counts/size....

 

[trdragons44]

stay AWAY from fram they break apart internally and clog up some oil passages. I use motorcraft personally no problems. FL-820S is the motorcraft number. I believe they been using them since 96/97 to present 4.6 and 5.4 V8 on all fordmoco vehicles.

 

[nvycrmn]

i agree. i only run motorcraft filters on my expy as well.

 

[ELVATO]

Yep, FL-820S. Some of the Walmarts have a little computer (instead of the large book) that gives you filter types, oil capacity, and weight.

 

[RUFFSTUFF]

stay AWAY from fram they break apart internally and clog up some oil passages. I use motorcraft personally no problems. FL-820S is the motorcraft number. I believe they been using them since 96/97 to present 4.6 and 5.4 V8 on all fordmoco vehicles.

So you had a Fram filter break internally on you?

 

[socomboy]

fram broke on me as well. not the way to go for me.

 

[trdragons44]

Yea some scary shit when u pull ur filter off and all the filter elemnt falls out when u go to drain it.

 

[Eric]

Our local Walmart has Motorcraft but not the FL-820S size. I have used Fram for 15 years and never had one fail, but not saying it can't happen. Anyone know who makes the filters for Ford?

I noted that Fram has a new Xtended Guard filter advertised as being designed for use with full synthetic oil, suposedly allows longer time between changes. Anyone have experience with this filter? They are $8 which is certainly more expensive but could be worth every penny if it cleans the oil better.

 

[smo0othride]

Our local Walmart has Motorcraft but not the FL-820S size. I have used Fram for 15 years and never had one fail, but not saying it can't happen. Anyone know who makes the filters for Ford?

I noted that Fram has a new Xtended Guard filter advertised as being designed for use with full synthetic oil, suposedly allows longer time between changes. Anyone have experience with this filter? They are $8 which is certainly more expensive but could be worth every penny if it cleans the oil better.

I have also heard lots of bad stories about Fram filters, Motorcraft makes the filters for Ford.

 

[RUFFSTUFF]

I've used Fram for hundreds of thousands of miles in cars, trucks and motorcycles and have never had a problem. Of the 5 current vehicles I have now, only my Mazda3 doesn't have a Fram. To each his own.

 

[GAINMOB]

i knew a guy that was an air force mechanic...had a sweet mustang redone under the hood and his f150...he advised me that no matter what mod i do to my truck, always use MOTORCRAFT...not just your regular filter but specifically designed for ford vehicles...not like universals...(FRAM, K&N)...so thats what i do.

 

[ELVATO]

Purolator makes the Motorcraft filters. At least for the 04-08 F150s, Frams are the ones responsible for startup noise. Something about the anti drain back valve.

 

[seeker]

Automotive Parts

I worked in automotive parts for a dealership for fourteen years. I cant tell you the hundreds of times I sold a factory oil filter to someone that was complaining about engine noise (lack of proper lubrication due to restricted oil flow). It always seem to fix the problem.

I actually was in a manufactures class and was shown 50 different filters that had been cut in half. It was very interesting to see the variations. After that I have always used the manufactures filters. What you don't see on the outside will make a difference. Even if you spend as much as 10 dollars difference for each filter and change oil 3 times a year, you'll spend 30 bucks a year. Try to pick up extended warranty that cheap. There's my 2 cents worth.

 

[alexhozee]

I use the NAPA, never had any problems.

 

[RUFFSTUFF]

Our local Walmart has Motorcraft but not the FL-820S size. I have used Fram for 15 years and never had one fail, but not saying it can't happen. Anyone know who makes the filters for Ford?

I noted that Fram has a new Xtended Guard filter advertised as being designed for use with full synthetic oil, suposedly allows longer time between changes. Anyone have experience with this filter? They are $8 which is certainly more expensive but could be worth every penny if it cleans the oil better.

Since I'm changing my oil anyway, I got the Motorcraft filter, a whopping $3.67 (before my discount!). Should be good for 5hp, right?

 

[GAINMOB]

what discount do you have?

 

[RUFFSTUFF]

what discount do you have?

10% on everything except for alcohol and non-healthy foods.

 

[RUFFSTUFF]

My butt dyno says the Motorcraft filter is good for +3.75hp at 3500rpm. I'll check again tomorrow, this time with the headlights off...

 

[Eric]

I went with Fram XG2 which was $9, as I stated before been using Fram for 15 years without issue. We will see how it goes, I'm using Mobil 1 full synthetic as well. Common sense would say the Fram is as good or better as the OEM (which ELVATO says is a Purolator) since Fram's existance and reputation depnds on the quality of their products. I know the "Motorcraft" OEM battery sucked, so not everything stamped with Motorcraft is great.