When did you do you the first oil change?

[Redstripe19]

I got a new 2019 XLT recently and have about 1300 miles on it now. I used to have a Shelby and the guys on those forums were doing the first oil change at 500-1000 miles or earlier. Is this important to do with the Expedition and do you use full synthetic?

 

[Sowie1701]

I have 7000miles on mine and it says I still have30% left. We have free oil changes at dealer. Can change it at 20% or less they say. Synthetic is what they always put in our last explorer sport.


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[Fozzy]

In all my vehicles I will do the first at 2500 miles then the second at 5000 then every 5K after that. Any motor that has forced induction will always have contaminated oil before the oil breaks down so I spend my money on more oil changes than high end oil.


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[lobsenza]

I always do my first oil change between 1000 and 1500 miles.

 

[stricnine]

I change my oil at 6k, simply because it keeps my tire rotations and oil changes in line. Hahahaha

 

[Shutterbug57]

5K

 

[F150 Pat]

First one at 5K and every 5K afterwards. I also send in a sample to Blackstone for an oil anaylsis. First sample at 5K had the usual break-in readings but they also commented the viscosity was slightly low for 5-30. Make me wonder about an oil that cant hold its viscosity for a lousy 5K miles. I run Mobil 1 now.

 

[Deadman]

The longer you wait to change the oil, the sooner you will replace your cam phasers.

 

[Going_Going_Gone]

3,500 miles, but it was 6 months old at the time. Nice not having to negotiate commuter traffic any more. That would easily have been a month's mileage before i retired.

 

[Sowie1701]

So it seems like a lot of you are changing oil at 5k. Why so if your oil life indicator is still at 30-40%? Seems like a waste of money to change sooner than needed especially if using synthetic. I thought there was a sensor to detect contaminants in oil for the % readout. Anyone know for sure?

My dealer provides lifetime power train warranty on all its new vehicles so I’m not as concerned on potential wear.


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[F150 Pat]

NO better protection for your engine than clean oil. So you don't take care of your vehicle because it under warranty?

 

[Deadman]

NO better protection for your engine than clean oil. So you don't take care of your vehicle because it under warranty?

Exactly why I refuse to buy used vehicles now days. People don't care for them because they just keep them while they have some slip of paper saying they're warranteed for. No thanks.

 

[Fozzy]

So it seems like a lot of you are changing oil at 5k. Why so if your oil life indicator is still at 30-40%? Seems like a waste of money to change sooner than needed especially if using synthetic. I thought there was a sensor to detect contaminants in oil for the % readout. Anyone know for sure?

My dealer provides lifetime power train warranty on all its new vehicles so I’m not as concerned on potential wear.


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IMO synthetic is a waste of money unless you are in a racing application or some kind of competition where you need ever ounce of protection. With forced induction you always end up with more fuel in the oil before even Dino Oil goes bad. Do oil samples and you will see for your self. That’s the only real way to know. Most Dino oils are easily good for 10K or better in every gas or diesel application I have sampled. Fuel, soot and blow bye are always present with forced induction and need to be drained out. Even if the oil has not broken down. Ford offers a $90.00 3 oil change package that gives you 3-5K changes for the year. Ford know the Ecoboost needs clean oil every 5K, they just won’t admit it.


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[st381183]

So it seems like a lot of you are changing oil at 5k. Why so if your oil life indicator is still at 30-40%? Seems like a waste of money to change sooner than needed especially if using synthetic. I thought there was a sensor to detect contaminants in oil for the % readout. Anyone know for sure?

My dealer provides lifetime power train warranty on all its new vehicles so I’m not as concerned on potential wear.


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Because oil changes are cheap and replacing engines is expensive.

 

[Sowie1701]

It’s your money and you guys have every right to spend as you see fit however the science says different.


http://www.edmunds.com/car-maintenance/oil-life-monitoring-systems.html

Do a google search and there are many more articles that show the testing from Blackstone shows that the oil had many more miles left even after the vehicle said to change the oil. In other words the computer records your driving habits and errors on the safe side on when to change the oil.

The other side to look at is you are friendlier on the environment to only change the oil when it needs it.


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[ExplorerTom]

I thought there was a sensor to detect contaminants in oil for the % readout. Anyone know for sure?

The system only detects revolutions, temp and time. It takes lab equipment to determine the actual condition of the oil.

 

[Sowie1701]

The system only detects revolutions, temp and time. It takes lab equipment to determine the actual condition of the oil.

Yes since doing a little more research Ford does use an algorithm based on what you say above. The articles I have read also state that this method for determining oil change intervals is really good.

There are some car manufacturers that have additional sensors that can test the oil on the vehicle.


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[st381183]

Why do I change my oil after every 4-5 thousand miles? Well, when I add the oil, a beautiful golden viscous fluid gets added. When I drain the oil this nasty black stuff comes out. I change my own oil and can check for leaks and ensure what I want put in is actually what gets put in. I’ve never heard of any mechanic have to change a motor in a vehicle because the oil was too good or changed too frequently.

 

[Deadman]

I also change my own oil, because I remember a guy from a service garage told me when he was younger he would drain the oil out of the little old ladies cars and put that in other new cars and then take the new oil home for himself to use. Its BS, but it DOES HAPPEN!
Also, don't believe everything these articles tell you, they usually have their own agenda in mind more than the facts. Any tree hugger can post an article about your oil lasting 20,000 miles, so they fool you into their reduced oil changes. I'm not saying whats right or wrong, but its been proven that the oil passages on these eco boosts plug up with contaminants and then the cam phasers run low on lubrication and rattle and wear out causing expensiveeeeee repairs. I'll take my chances on $40 in synthetic oil and a new filter more frequently because I plan to keep mine a long time.

 

[MonkeyBrains]

Just shy of 4000 miles for the first one, but I was heading out on a 1600 mile road trip. Try to change every 5K miles and I’m usually on that mark or no more than 500 miles over... Oil change sensors are less reliable than TPMS sensors, IMO. Most only monitor revolutions and average RPMs and such. Some of the more advanced on the market will try to determine contaminant levels through electrostatic readings. I think Ford is just using revolutions, and other algorithmically determined factors. I know I don’t need to change every 5K, but fresh oil is always a good thing and if I’m driving it hard through the mountains and/or pulling a trailer a lot then it just makes sense. Besides, the dealership throws in free oil changes in addition to making me a reasonable deal on a service plan. So my oil changes, tire rotations, air filters, etc.. are all covered. I can change my oil and rotate tires every 5K miles at no extra cost to me until I hit 60K miles... Unfortunately, I’m only 18 months into owning this one and already have 30K miles on it.