Where are these relays located?

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2000 EB expedition. Looking for the door lock relays. Searching around the net has them either behind the radio, under the hood on the passenger side, or behind a trim panel in the drivers rear area. Anyone know without a doubt where they are?
 
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Copied from the 2000 service manual
 
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Thanks Bedrck46! Glad I asked before I went to digging around for them. I never would have looked there. Will report back when I get the chance to replace them.
 
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Looked for the relays today, but couldn't get the headliner down but a few inches to peek in with a flashlight. Unless they are tucked in behind something, I didn't see them. The reason I wanted to check them is because I'm having issues with the door locks. Sometimes when I hit the key fob to unlock them they sound extremely weak/underpowered, and if i hit the button a couple more times to keep trying to unlock them they just sound weaker or there is no sound at all like there is no power to them. Other times they may work just fine, or at least all but the drivers door. It very rarely works. Also, when I go to lock the doors, they still sound weak, but usually lock, BUT when the horn honks to let me know all the locks are down it sounds extremely weak also. Would really like to track down this problem and get them working again.
 

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Looked for the relays today, but couldn't get the headliner down but a few inches to peek in with a flashlight. Unless they are tucked in behind something, I didn't see them. The reason I wanted to check them is because I'm having issues with the door locks. Sometimes when I hit the key fob to unlock them they sound extremely weak/underpowered, and if i hit the button a couple more times to keep trying to unlock them they just sound weaker or there is no sound at all like there is no power to them. Other times they may work just fine, or at least all but the drivers door. It very rarely works. Also, when I go to lock the doors, they still sound weak, but usually lock, BUT when the horn honks to let me know all the locks are down it sounds extremely weak also. Would really like to track down this problem and get them working again.

sounds like an issue with the relay pack under the panel on the right side of the dash. (it's a big oval above the air bag) it controls the horn/lights when you use the key fob there is a thread about disabling the perimeter lighting that shows the rpo relay block but the lock relays may be there too.


pretty much, they are in the dash near the keyfob controlled relays
 
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Thanks for the heads up. I will take a look there first chance I get. Weather is going to be bad here for the next few days.
 
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You may have misread the print they are under the dash but looking again at the print I can see it is somewhat misleading
 
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You may have misread the print they are under the dash but looking again at the print I can see it is somewhat misleading

That's exactly what I did. Totally misread it. Glad I didn't take the entire headliner out! =D
 
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Finally had time to check the door lock relays yesterday, but unfortunately they were not the problem. Going to replace the two front lock actuators next as they seem to be the ones not operating with the most consistency. I did however snap a few pics to post in case someone needs to know where they are. Again, this is on a 2000EB model.

Pic #1 is of the oval dash piece that needs to be snapped up to get to them. (marked with a red X). Pretty straight forward removal. Find a point that you can insert your fingers into, slide them to one side where it gets tight, and give a gentle tug upward. Once you get one of them loose they get easier to snap up. After it was all the way unsnapped, I found it easier to move it out of my way by removing the electrical connector going to the photocell for the automatic head lights (circled in yellow).

Pic #2 is with the dash piece removed. Circled in yellow on the right hand side is NOT the relay block your looking for. I had the cover off in the pic so I could touch them with my fingers to feel for the "click" while my son pressed the door lock button. Thats when I realized I had not found the correct relays. The door lock relay block is circled in orange. To get to it, take a 7mm nut driver and remove the 5 screws holding the metal bracket in place, and unplug the electrical connection just below the orange circle. Once the metal bracket is loose, move it around so you can stick a small flat blade screwdriver on the underside of the relay block circled in yellow, and slide it off. Once that is removed you can pull the metal bracket out of your way and have better access to the door lock relay block.

Pic#3 is of the relay block with the metal bracket removed. As you can see, they put a couple wraps of electrical tape around the cover so take a knife to cut through it, and remove it. The cover has a pull tab on both sides, and the left side is a little difficult to get to, but it can be done. Once the cover is off, you will find 3 relays. I had already purchased 3 relays at a local pull a part and had on hand, but if you don't have any, you can use the ones in the other relay block to test with because they all have the same part number.
 

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hope these help if you need any others let me know Its no bother
 
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