Which year is best?

[marlinpruett]

If you were buying a used Expedition which year is the best? Most reliable, has the best features?
As info I have a 2007 EL Limited that is my best vehicle ever. ( i am 77 Years old so may be my last purchase)

 

[JExpedition07]

I’ve been happy with my 2007, good truck. My opinion is the best year is a 2014!

 

[Motorcity muscle]

have a 2007 eddie bower and love driving this truck, has 123.000 miles and other than occasional trans shudder wouldn't trade it for anything.

 

[1955moose]

Depends. Some say first and early second gens. If I were to buy another one used, I'd probably search for a low miles 2012-14. The newer 6 cylinder turbos are great running, but the more I read about these, their problematic. Never was a fan of turbo chargers anyway. Too many parts to give trouble down the road.
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[jeff kushner]

Darn Marlin, you want to start a war by asking that? LOL
Some may be a tiny bit biased but you can see the other two I owed and this one's powertrain is by far the best but that EB was pretty nice inside. Today the game is "technology"...& many are willing to pay the 10k tech premium on the new vehicles.

Good luck

Jeff

 

[99WhiteC5Coupe]

Darn Marlin, you want to start a war by asking that? LOL
Some may be a tiny bit biased but you can see the other two I owed and this one's powertrain is by far the best but that EB was pretty nice inside. Today the game is "technology"...& many are willing to pay the 10k tech premium on the new vehicles.

Good luck

Jeff

Yes - As long as he doesn’t ask what is the best oil filter or oil to use...............

 

[Trainmaster]

Depends on what you mean by "best". Is a "sync" navigation system most important to you, as it was to Car and Driver magazine? How about twin turbos?

If you just want bare bones reliability, I'd look at a 2000 or 2001. But they are pretty old by now. Avoid the spark plug grief and look at low mileage late 2008 through 2014, with 2014 probably having the most issues corrected.

 

[coolzzy]

If you want the power of boost, look for a 17. It's the last year of the gen 3 body and last year for gen1 ecoboost motor as well. Bugs are pretty worked out and you'll get the non Microsoft powered (qnx) sync which is a huge improvement over previous buggy system.

Buy low miles CPO and you'll be covered on powertrain till 100k with $100 deductible after 60k miles. Most naysayers have not spent time towing with the turbo 6, it will make a believer out of you and put the 5.4 v8 to shame in every aspect but sound.

Longevity wise avoid models with power running boards, many used trucks have them siezed up with sand and corrosion and they are expensive to replace (parts not serviceable) ,same with moonroof. You can get a limited with fixed boards and no moon roof, or an XLT nicely equipped with 202a package for even less.

 

[1955moose]

Gee it's been a whole 3 weeks since we've bantered about oil/filters! Thank God!

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[JExpedition07]

YouTube some 20-30k oil changes and watch the sludge come out...

 

[Adieu]

2012-2014 for 5.4's with upgrades and old problems addressed
2017 for ecoboosts

2009 for budget trucks, SSVs should be <$4k by now... 07-08 had the problem old plugs that could make a driveway tuneup on a budget purchase into a nightmare

 

[JExpedition07]

The plug issues in 07-08s are blown out of proportion. I changed plugs and boots on my 07’ myself and it wasn’t difficult. Was a pretty easy project actually. I already had SP-515 plugs (first redesign) in the heads though.

 

[Adieu]

The plug issues in 07-08s are blown out of proportion. I changed plugs and boots on my 07’ myself and it wasn’t difficult. Was a pretty easy project actually. I already had SP-515 plugs (first redesign) in the heads though.

Maybe...maybe not.

Thing is that a cheap 09 wont cost you much more, if even at all more... and has pretty much no big ticket surprises

 

[1955moose]

You know what kills me about new model vehicles, is aren't the engineers and designers supposed to run these vehicles litterealy into dust, for durability factors. And wouldn't that mean pulling out and installing spark plugs? Why did they run 3 valve motors for 4 years, and then say, oops we've got another sparkplug problem. It's not threads this time, but fellas you're not going to believe what our dealerships are saying! Just once it would be nice to build a motor or transmission, find it's weak link, fix it before it hits production. Gm did just that with the first Automatic transmission for them, the hydramatic. They introduced it in 1939 for the Oldsmobile. Used that model for a testbed, tweaked it, then offered it in 41 for the Cadillac lineup. The transmission proved so strong that they used them in tanks in WW2, and other competition bought them, Lincoln, Hudson, and others. Why can't that kind of logic be applied today? Can anyone explain why you need a two piece sparkplug? When obviously the newer one piece is just fine.

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[Adieu]

You know what kills me about new model vehicles, is aren't the engineers and designers supposed to run these vehicles litterealy into dust, for durability factors. And wouldn't that mean pulling out and installing spark plugs? Why did they run 3 valve motors for 4 years, and then say, oops we've got another sparkplug problem. It's not threads this time, but fellas you're not going to believe what our dealerships are saying! Just once it would be nice to build a motor or transmission, find it's weak link, fix it before it hits production. Gm did just that with the first Automatic transmission for them, the hydramatic. They introduced it in 1939 for the Oldsmobile. Used that model for a testbed, tweaked it, then offered it in 41 for the Cadillac lineup. The transmission proved so strong that they used them in tanks in WW2, and other competition bought them, Lincoln, Hudson, and others. Why can't that kind of logic be applied today? Can anyone explain why you need a two piece sparkplug? When obviously the newer one piece is just fine.

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Cost-cutting... that's why the crappy plugs were tried

As to testing....who the heck knows. "Simulating" 100k mi shouldn't be hard nor at all time-consuming, hook the darn thing up to a genny, run with RPM and load simulating 100mph, and change oil every 2-3 days

All it takes is 1.5 months and you got your 100k mi motor test

 

[cmiles97]

You know what kills me about new model vehicles, is aren't the engineers and designers supposed to run these vehicles litterealy into dust, for durability factors. And wouldn't that mean pulling out and installing spark plugs? Why did they run 3 valve motors for 4 years, and then say, oops we've got another sparkplug problem. It's not threads this time, but fellas you're not going to believe what our dealerships are saying! Just once it would be nice to build a motor or transmission, find it's weak link, fix it before it hits production. Gm did just that with the first Automatic transmission for them, the hydramatic. They introduced it in 1939 for the Oldsmobile. Used that model for a testbed, tweaked it, then offered it in 41 for the Cadillac lineup. The transmission proved so strong that they used them in tanks in WW2, and other competition bought them, Lincoln, Hudson, and others. Why can't that kind of logic be applied today? Can anyone explain why you need a two piece sparkplug? When obviously the newer one piece is just fine.

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It does seem the more complicated we make things, the more issues develop. I read somewhere that 4runners are selling like crazy because of the lack of tech and still being a body on frame mid sized suv. This generation is 10 years into production. There are rumors of a revised one coming out soon.

On the other hand the friend that had 4x4 issues with his 2016 F-50 that the dealership could only fix for a few months at a time, traded it in on a Land Rover Discovery Sport. It is already getting false readings from the front parking sensors when it snows and at less than 4,000 miles already has a check engine light on. He's like he should have went back to a 4runner. He traded one in on the F150 with 130,000 miles and zero issues.

When the 4runner is updated, it'll have all the new tech and there really won't be a new vehicle out there that's "simple". You know devoid of all the driver's assist and take over tech in the SUV or truck market.

MY XLT is very basic except for the twin turbo engine and drive train modes.

 

[1955moose]

We won the battle against them in 1945, but they are winning the war. It's not stereo typing that almost all the Asians here in San Francisco drive Toyota's or Lexus. They know value, and they know what lasts. Kinda ironic that San Francisco Toyota is smack in the Richmond district of San Francisco, one of the heaviest populated Chinese/Japanese areas. Someday maybe the big three can catch up, and build a vehicle that's Tech, and doesn't break.

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[ExplorerTom]

That’s the thing with Toyota. You can go buy a brand new Tundra today and it’ll feel like a 10 year old truck- not meaning that it’s falling apart, but because the tech is 10 years behind. It’s a boring truck. I know someone with an older one and he’s looking to replace it (has 275k miles on it) and he said they new ones are basically exactly the same as his current one.