Why is it so hard to find one with bench???

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Andy C

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Trying to find a Max Limited 4x4 with bench, and most of them are captain.

Bench is more practical, meets our family needs. Everyone that I look around has the captain seat.

What's the deal?

One that we found isn't the color we want (white gold or something like that).

Just a rant.
 

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The bench seat is great, even though not everyone needs the extra seating. I have our child’s car seat in the center seat and the kids can get to the 3rd row on either side.. great flexibility. We have a 2018 Tahoe with buckets, and the car seat hits the back of the driver’s seat.. and kid can get to the 3rd row only on the side the car seat isn’t.
 

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Have you considered an FX4 Package?

Technically it's an XLT, but usually are fairly well optioned out 10 way leather d/p, almost always have the bench 2nd row, in fact I don't think you can get 2nd row captains chairs, unless u start with Limited.
If will have 3:73 limited slip and the hi low transfer case, and the dash (gauge cluster) is same as Limited model, even though it's an XLT.

Peek at this one, it's a Max, and since build date shows May, probably has metal oilpan.
https://www.haleyfordchester.com/ne...00a0e0aea23fb4458f4d29e7d.htm?searchDepth=5:7
 

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All XLTs have the 2nd row bench. What you can't get on the XLTs are the upgraded stereo, LED headlamps/tail lamps, power running boards, forward parking sensors, active parking assist, RES*, 22" rims, and some cosmetic stuff... Of course, if you want the FX4 package, you have to get the XLT...

*It's unanimous on these forums that the RES is a waste of $2k
 
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Wife wants luxury that comes with comfort drive and softer suspension of limited with 602a which comes with ccd.

But without getting to the platinum level. FX4 sounds intriguing, but can’t get 360 camera either. All these are not necessary but very beneficial to have. Hence OP was to just vent a little. Will take family out for test drive to evaluate one last time. Captain vs bench. Thanks all for your input.


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We have 3 little kids and the captains seats are way way more practical for us. The kids can all go and get loaded without parents being required to release a seat, slide, then wait for said kid to load, the pull the seat back in place. Instead said kid just opens the door and walks through the “hallway” like a school bus and sits down. Gives the parents an extra 45 seconds in the day, which adds up quick, LOL.


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I only have two kids, but mine love the "hallway;" they love to load up and "hide from dad" (they are 2 and 5) while I try to wrangle them into their seats. I have found that no matter how easy it is to pull the second row bench forward to access the third row, in any vehicle, humans under the age of 15 much prefer to jump over the bench....and that crap just was not going to fly.

(Captains were a foregone conclusion for us anyway as both of our carseats are designed in such a way as to prevent the tip n' slide function from working.)
 

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The kids can all go and get loaded without parents being required to pull a seat handle, slide, then wait for said kid to load, the pull the seat back in place.
There's a little button on the rear door frame that the kids can push which releases the seat and tips it forward. A little nudge from a small child is all that's required to get it to the front. All the parent has to do is push it back into place. As a bonus, I've found I can even reach the car seat straps in the third row without having to climb into the vehicle which is something that can't be said for my Odyssey. (Maybe if I had one of the new ones with the tip and slide seats...)
 

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There's a little button on the rear door frame that the kids can push which releases the seat and tips it forward. A little nudge from a small child is all that's required to get it to the front. All the parent has to do is push it back into place. As a bonus, I've found I can even reach the car seat straps in the third row without having to climb into the vehicle which is something that can't be said for my Odyssey. (Maybe if I had one of the new ones with the tip and slide seats...)

I know these are first world problems, lol, but I’d rather NOT have to go to the rear doors at all. With captains seats, my wife and I just get into the vehicle as normal. Also, IF an adult ever has to sit in the 3rd row, it’s kind of claustrophobic with that 2nd row bench covering up 75% of the front vertical view (from floor to ceiling), whereas with second row captains, it feels like an OPEN floor plan.


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Thanks for everyone's feedback on captain vs. crew seating arrangement. Haven't bought one yet, so still have time to decide.

We may end up going with what is more readily available out there, which is captains seat. Maybe it will be easier to negotiate with more supply out there.
 

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I really liked the bench in my 2010 EL, and it kept stuff from coming forward with the third row flat. I could not find a bench in the acceptable colors when I bought my 2014 EL, so now I have to rig something to close the gap. When not loading up for camping, a narrow dog crate sits in the gap. The dog loves it, but I would rather have the bench and the extra seating position. JMO
 

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Wave enough $$$$ under the dealership's nose and they may make exactly what you want magically become available. Remember the Mercury Marauder? Supposedly it was never available in red but I know a wealthy old woman who got what is most likely the only red Marauder ever made. Wouldn't say how much extra that cost her. Would have required either sending the body and other parts down a line currently spraying that color, or stopping whatever color was currently on the Marauder line, flushing everything, shooting the red, then flushing that to return to one of the standard colors. Mercedes did the same a couple years ago for spraying red onto one of their models that was only available in black, silver or white.

Just ask the dealer "How much will it cost me to get the second row bench instead of captain's chairs along with the rest of the fancy luxury package?" A good dealer will make things happen to make a sale. An old friend of the family bought a 1967 Chevy Caprice with 396, Muncie 4 speed with floor shift and bench front seat. A combination that "wasn't available" but he got it anyway by throwing enough money at the dealer.

I'd expect having the seat supplier put leather on a 2nd row bench would be *significantly cheaper* than having an unavailable color sprayed onto the truck.

BTW, what use is the sliding middle part of the bench? Run it forward and its bottom nearly touches the back of the front console. If you need more space just fold it down.

That could be a solution, buy the truck with the rear captains seats then buy a used middle seat and contact one of those places that does aftermarket leather replacement upholstery. "I just need the middle part, not the entire 2nd row." Take it all to an upholstery shop, find one that will also install the midlle seat.
 

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Waving $$$ is beyond what O.P. is after, economies of scale prevail....
I'd be inclined to believe the 3:73 as the best option.

Granted, I'm currently at a Hooter's.................
 
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