Guys I'm doing my spacers and torsion twist tomorrow and I need clarification...

lbrowne · Apr 21, 2012

I've searched on here and I've found couple ways of doing things for the torsion twist...but some details that I can't confirm.

I was going to do the following"

1. Make sure both fronts have same air pressure
2. measure from middle fender lip to the ground.
3. jack up front and place jackstands under lower control arms with the tires slightly off the ground.

Then this is where I get unsure...

Do I tighten the 18mm bolts all the way down and then back them off a few turns? Seems like a pain to have to lower the truck, check the height I got, then raise her back up if I need to crank more.

Am I better off just confirming the height of the truck, leave it on the ground, and crank them up?

This is going to sound dumb but the Daystars I bought for the rear, the spring sits on them right?

Can you tell I've never lifted a vehicle before? lol

Lane24 · Apr 21, 2012

I think the spacer is supposed to go on top of the spring, but I put mine under. Same diff.
When I did my torsion twist, I didn't jack it up. I just got under and did some on one side, and then did the other side. When I got to the desired height, I made sure they were even. Took a drive around town a little bit. Came back... parked on level ground, and remeasured, and then adjusted any difference. Too lazy to jack it up.

panda24619 · Apr 21, 2012

same. cranked the driver all the way. and passenger till it was even. drove around hit bumps and pot holes then adjusted them.

lbrowne · Apr 21, 2012

Lol how the heck did I do the monroe air ride conversion is beyond me ahaha

I got the rear shocks let go, the swaybar endlinks, and that axle doesn't quite drop enough to pull the spring out without me putting weight on that side to move the axle down more.

Which tells me I'm going to have a heck of a time getting the spring and spacer back in... do you use a set of widow makers to compress the spring?

Lane24 · Apr 21, 2012

I'm not sure what a widow maker is. But you use a spring compressor. Maybe you can go rent one, or borrow one from a shop, or parts rental place. It's step 11 in the daystar installation instructions....

11. The use of a coil spring compressor is recommended before the following steps are taken

Lane24 · Apr 21, 2012

Here's a link for the spacer install from Daystar if yours didn't come with them.

http://www.daystarweb.com/attachments/instructions/kg/p10476.pdf

lbrowne · Apr 21, 2012

Bah! Mine didn't come with instructions! lol Oh well got them done and hoyl does it sit high in the rear.

What I did was, spring compressor on the springs, spacer on top, put a small bottle jack on the bumpstop and it's spot where it would hit if it had to, and slightly pushed the axle down. Went in like a glove.

How many times do you have to crank the front to get 2 inches? I keep turning the bolt but it's sloooowly going up. I'm going to have an Arnold arm here soon.

Lane24 · Apr 21, 2012

Just keep turning...... Put a bar over the end of your socket wrench for a little more leverage. Or go get a 18 inch breaker bar....

lbrowne · Apr 21, 2012

Ok so now I got myself in a bit of a pickle. I need another 2 inches for sure in the front, even though the bars are cranked. It has quite the rake look going now, sits very high in the rear.

Thing is I had to replace my rear springs because the Monroe kit I had accidentally came with rear Navigator springs. They sent me new ones, the correct ones at that. Well side by side the proper spring is about an inch taller.

So I think with that, and my spacers, I'm rockin 3 inches in the rear and I never quite got 2 inches in the front from the torsion bar crank. To me, it looks retarded right now. But I love how the ride has firmed up. Rides much nicer.

lbrowne · Apr 21, 2012

Here is how it looks, I know the rear springs may settle a bit but this was after a drive...

Lane24 · Apr 21, 2012

That is quite a rake.... But I think mine looked about the same before I did the body lift. My rear springs were not as stiff as yours though, so not quite as much height in the rear.

For comparison.. this is how mine looked after I did the TT and rear spacers...

lbrowne · Apr 21, 2012

That ground looks to be sloping up the driveway so that would take away from the rake as well.

What are my options now, driving down the road this thing looks ridiculous to me.

Do aftermarket torsion keys give you lift beyond the stock ones? I'd hate to take the rear apart since it's the height I want.

I went with 2" Daystar spacers btw.... I think it has alot to do with these being brand new springs too.

Lane24 · Apr 21, 2012

I think you may want to do some searching on the after market keys. IDK much about them, but hopefully someone who has used them will chime in. Probably your best bet.

lbrowne · Apr 21, 2012

I think as part of the conversion front coils from Monroe, the front setup is just too short. Even if I had no spacers, I would definitely have a rake to the truck if I never cranked the bars...

Here is the Expedition vs Navigator spring:

Lane24 · Apr 21, 2012

I see.. I got a ton of more CV angle than you got..

lbrowne · Apr 21, 2012

Mine are damn near horizontal.

rburch · Apr 21, 2012

The TB on the air suspension are weaker than the standard suspension so you wont gwt as much lift from them.

Some people have welded a piece of metal across the bottom shock towers to get the additional lift.

Lane24 · Apr 21, 2012

Aaaahhhh. So there you go... Thanks rburch!!!

rburch · Apr 21, 2012

There are a couple of pics on the forum but I cant find them!

Lane24 · Apr 21, 2012

Here's a link to a thread on aftermarket torsion keys if you are interested.

http://www.expeditionforum.com/showthread.php?t=14692&highlight=aftermarket+torsion+keys

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