Experience towing with ecoboost?

[jberzer]

Hey there, just wondering if anyone has any experience towing with the ESPY Max with 3.73's and ecoboost?
Just recently found out we are having our 4th child so need to upgrade my vehicle to fit the extra head count. I currently have a 2012 F150 ecoboost with the 3.73's and tow a trailer around 6600lbs loaded. Pulls is like a dream but was planning on getting a little bit bigger trailer.
Just trying to figure out if I should buy the Expedition or a diesel F-350 with the jump seat. This will be my wifes daily driver.
Thanks

 

[stamp11127]

Diesels are great if you stay on top of the maintenance and don't cheap out on oil and filters. If you take the cheap route it will be very costly down the road.
Also you can't just shut them off after driving or you cook the turbo bearings and seals which will require a reman turbo unless you can rebuild it yourself. I let my jetta diesel idle for 3 minutes before shutting down.

 

[powerboatr]

havent towed yet with ours...but as far as get up and go...it gets up and go's better than the 150 eco boost it replaced.

 

[dspfeiffer]

We just came back from a trip through the Catskills in NY. Some pretty steep grades and long hills. I couldn't be happier with our 2016 Expedition EL Limited. 3.73 gears, self leveling. Last year I pulled the same trailer up those hills with my 2009 Expedition with the 5.4L. On one hill we couldn't break 45 miles per hour without mashing it to the floor. This year with the Ecoboost engine, we cruised easily up those EXACT SAME HILLS at 60-65 without breaking a sweat. Probably didn't go much over 3,500rpm.

We bought this Expedition (it's our 3rd and by far the best) in the winter and I was worried that there was a lot of hype associated with the Ecoboost engine. I loved the acceleration of the EB, but this was the first time I could actually tow with it. I was extremely happy with how it towed on this trip. It went above and beyond what I was expecting. Also, if you have the opportunity, do not pass up the self-leveling (Nivomat) shocks. They work exactly as advertised. We start out with a little squat, and in a few miles we are running perfectly level.

Just for sake of comparison, we are pulling a 2013 Keystone Cougar 31 SQB. I estimate it tops out loaded at around 8,500-9,000 lbs. This truck pulls it EASILY!

The only downside is fuel mileage. Don't believe that hype. It's no better, and possible a little worse, than the 5.4L engine. But I would take the power and torque any day over the 1 mpg or so difference.

 

[bret191]

Hey there, just wondering if anyone has any experience towing with the ESPY Max with 3.73's and ecoboost?
Just recently found out we are having our 4th child so need to upgrade my vehicle to fit the extra head count. I currently have a 2012 F150 ecoboost with the 3.73's and tow a trailer around 6600lbs loaded. Pulls is like a dream but was planning on getting a little bit bigger trailer.
Just trying to figure out if I should buy the Expedition or a diesel F-350 with the jump seat. This will be my wifes daily driver.
Thanks

I have to tell you that a diesel is not at all a economic vehicle, and a ford once you get some miles on it has a very good likely hood that it could cost you a few thousand a year just in repair cost! I work on them daily and if you spend a few days researching them "Ford" you will see a trend. I get really sad for all of these poor men and woman that end up going broke because of a ford diesel. I have one in the bay at this moment thats going to have ANOTHER multi thousand dollar bill and my next door neighbour just took his in and the quote is $3000-5500. When running they have plenty of power and you do have some that can and do run a full lifespan without major pain but just be informed of ALL the possibilities. Now a for a gas engine ford you cant go wrong. Very reliable and decent fuel mileage for a truck. Its nothing to get at least 200,000 miles and more with NO problems.I would say for every 20 diesel engines we get maybe one gas engine and its usually due to poor maintenance or low coolant ect. Keep the maintenance up and you cant find a better engine! Good luck..

 

[jlanka]

We just came back from a trip through the Catskills in NY. Some pretty steep grades and long hills. I couldn't be happier with our 2016 Expedition EL Limited. 3.73 gears, self leveling. Last year I pulled the same trailer up those hills with my 2009 Expedition with the 5.4L. On one hill we couldn't break 45 miles per hour without mashing it to the floor. This year with the Ecoboost engine, we cruised easily up those EXACT SAME HILLS at 60-65 without breaking a sweat. Probably didn't go much over 3,500rpm.

We bought this Expedition (it's our 3rd and by far the best) in the winter and I was worried that there was a lot of hype associated with the Ecoboost engine. I loved the acceleration of the EB, but this was the first time I could actually tow with it. I was extremely happy with how it towed on this trip. It went above and beyond what I was expecting. Also, if you have the opportunity, do not pass up the self-leveling (Nivomat) shocks. They work exactly as advertised. We start out with a little squat, and in a few miles we are running perfectly level.

Just for sake of comparison, we are pulling a 2013 Keystone Cougar 31 SQB. I estimate it tops out loaded at around 8,500-9,000 lbs. This truck pulls it EASILY!

The only downside is fuel mileage. Don't believe that hype. It's no better, and possible a little worse, than the 5.4L engine. But I would take the power and torque any day over the 1 mpg or so difference.

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Well, this is exactly the info I was looking for. I'm sold, the Expedition EL will replace my Suburban, towing capacity is what I'm looking for. Thanks for your endorsement

 

[ANGEL TORES]

We just came back from a trip through the Catskills in NY. Some pretty steep grades and long hills. I couldn't be happier with our 2016 Expedition EL Limited. 3.73 gears, self leveling. Last year I pulled the same trailer up those hills with my 2009 Expedition with the 5.4L. On one hill we couldn't break 45 miles per hour without mashing it to the floor. This year with the Ecoboost engine, we cruised easily up those EXACT SAME HILLS at 60-65 without breaking a sweat. Probably didn't go much over 3,500rpm.

We bought this Expedition (it's our 3rd and by far the best) in the winter and I was worried that there was a lot of hype associated with the Ecoboost engine. I loved the acceleration of the EB, but this was the first time I could actually tow with it. I was extremely happy with how it towed on this trip. It went above and beyond what I was expecting. Also, if you have the opportunity, do not pass up the self-leveling (Nivomat) shocks. They work exactly as advertised. We start out with a little squat, and in a few miles we are running perfectly level.

Just for sake of comparison, we are pulling a 2013 Keystone Cougar 31 SQB. I estimate it tops out loaded at around 8,500-9,000 lbs. This truck pulls it EASILY!

The only downside is fuel mileage. Don't believe that hype. It's no better, and possible a little worse, than the 5.4L engine. But I would take the power and torque any day over the 1 mpg or so difference.

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Hello, I was looking through this forum for ideas on what weight distribution hitch I should use. I own a 2015 Expi and I tow a 30ft Cherokee Grey wolf camper with a gwr of 8600lbs. I think I should change my wdh because of the squat I get when hooked up. What wdh do you use? Hope to here from you soon, have a good day and safe travels.

 

[ANGEL TORES]

Hello, I was looking through this forum for ideas on what weight distribution hitch I should use. I own a 2015 Expi and I tow a 30ft Cherokee Grey wolf camper with a gwr of 8600lbs. I think I should change my wdh because of the squat I get when hooked up. What wdh do you use? Hope to here from you soon, have a good day and safe travels.

 

[Edistobob]

Hello, I was looking through this forum for ideas on what weight distribution hitch I should use. I own a 2015 Expi and I tow a 30ft Cherokee Grey wolf camper with a gwr of 8600lbs. I think I should change my wdh because of the squat I get when hooked up. What wdh do you use? Hope to here from you soon, have a good day and safe travels.

We tow an Airstream, about 6950 lbs total weight, 840 lbs of which is tongue weight. We've towed with a 2008 Expy and now a 2018 Expy. Have never had a problem getting the Expy and the trailer level, no sag on the Expy, using a Reese Dual Cam hitch. Typically when I measured loaded the front and rear axle of either Expy were within 1/2" or less of the same ride height. Also the Reese is pretty easy to adjust by using different chain links to adjust the WD tension as necessary.

 

[shane_th_ee]

Hello, I was looking through this forum for ideas on what weight distribution hitch I should use. I own a 2015 Expi and I tow a 30ft Cherokee Grey wolf camper with a gwr of 8600lbs. I think I should change my wdh because of the squat I get when hooked up. What wdh do you use? Hope to here from you soon, have a good day and safe travels.

What's your tongue weight and what size are your spring bars? When we bought our used trailer, the previous owner threw in the WDH, but it only had 600lb bars for a trailer with a ~930lb tongue weight. My new 1200lb bars worked wonders!

 

[coolzzy]

I tow a 28ft (bumper to tongue total length 25ft box) tracer air 250 trailer. It is very light but weighs in at 6200 pounds gross weight and I pull with full water tank most of the time. I live in Idaho and all our camping is in the mountains. 2 adults and 3 kids in the truck, crammed with firewood and all manner of camping gear, my 17 expy EL pulls it like it's not even back there. Even in the mountains, it's mind bogglingly fantastic.

I use a husky centerline TS wdh and have zero sag when properly hitched up with my 800-1000 pound bars. My tongue weight is right at 930 pounds with full water tank as measured by my DIY tongue weight scale (thanks YouTube). I too would like a slightly larger trailer as my kids get bigger but don't like the thought of adding 1200 pounds and 3ft more to do it. I don't think the rear suspension could take any more, the advertised dry tongue weight of my trailer is 498 pounds, yet in practice is 930. I don't know how anyone tows anything heavier if tongue weights are that different from dry numbers (I. E. Trailer I looked at last weekend said 620 pounds dry tongue weight, but probably 1k wet!)

 

[DodgeRamAw06]

Looks like I found the right thread. Currently I tow our Cherokee 28’ bunk house loaded at 7300lbs, 800lb tongue weight with a Ram 1500 Hemi, 8sp, 3.21.

Looking at a 2015-2017 EL limited with eco and 3.73 gears. Looks like the payload is a little better at 1600 but the 920 max hitch weight is concerning to me. Nice to see some real world experience here.


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[shane_th_ee]

There is always the option of getting an aftermarket receiver from Torklift...

 

[Geargambler]

I recently towed a 24 ft enclosed trailer with a 2016 mustang in it down to the philly auto show. I can say that I'm really impressed with the way it towed. I dont think I had a the tongue weight adjusted correctly - there was some sway on the way down there. On the way back I could hardly tell that the trailer was even there (4k for the trailer unloaded).

I am eager to get a tuning device for the towing.

 

[ynpmoose]

I had an 03 Excursion with the 6.0L diesel. Now a 16 Expedition EL 3.5l . Towing a 4800dry/7000max TT, the Expy has just as much pulling power though the PA mountains. Downshift/engine braking was better on the diesel, because it's a diesel. Gas mileage while towing is worse of course, because it's gas, but I don't tow that often. The bumper weight capability is obviously worse, since the Excursion was a leaf spring solid axle, but not as much difference as you would think. A good WD setup will fix that anyway.

 

[Parkspremier]

We just came back from a trip through the Catskills in NY. Some pretty steep grades and long hills. I couldn't be happier with our 2016 Expedition EL Limited. 3.73 gears, self leveling. Last year I pulled the same trailer up those hills with my 2009 Expedition with the 5.4L. On one hill we couldn't break 45 miles per hour without mashing it to the floor. This year with the Ecoboost engine, we cruised easily up those EXACT SAME HILLS at 60-65 without breaking a sweat. Probably didn't go much over 3,500rpm.

We bought this Expedition (it's our 3rd and by far the best) in the winter and I was worried that there was a lot of hype associated with the Ecoboost engine. I loved the acceleration of the EB, but this was the first time I could actually tow with it. I was extremely happy with how it towed on this trip. It went above and beyond what I was expecting. Also, if you have the opportunity, do not pass up the self-leveling (Nivomat) shocks. They work exactly as advertised. We start out with a little squat, and in a few miles we are running perfectly level.

Just for sake of comparison, we are pulling a 2013 Keystone Cougar 31 SQB. I estimate it tops out loaded at around 8,500-9,000 lbs. This truck pulls it EASILY!

The only downside is fuel mileage. Don't believe that hype. It's no better, and possible a little worse, than the 5.4L engine. But I would take the power and torque any day over the 1 mpg or so difference.

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Seeing this gives me a lot more piece of mind towing my 25’ camp trailer

 

[johnboneske]

I have an EqUalizer E4 and couldn't be happier! Built in sway control too.