Loss of coolant, possibilities?

[hartsemperfi]

After investigating my leak this is my areas i found failure. Driverside rear of gasket and front passenger at crossover pipe.

 

[1955moose]

Glad you got it figured out.


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[hartsemperfi]

Glad you got it figured out.


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Thx I Youtubed it lol all the possibilities

 

[PrestigeWorldwide]

I had it set to 20 ft/lbs. My manual says 18-22 ft lbs for the intake to head bolts, so I figured I'd go in between. Won't make that mistake again. It was a brand new torque wrench.

 

[1955moose]

That shouldn't have broke it. It was a cheap part. I would double check your torque wrench against another just to be sure yours is accurate. Think how fast you get the job done the second time. Don't feel bad, we've all had to redo jobs. It's just part of the game.


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[hartsemperfi]

That sux so did you have to buy another intake?

 

[PrestigeWorldwide]

That shouldn't have broke it. It was a cheap part. I would double check your torque wrench against another just to be sure yours is accurate. Think how fast you get the job done the second time. Don't feel bad, we've all had to redo jobs. It's just part of the game.


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I agree. Definitely part of it. I'll be able to cut my time in half the second go around!

I haven't taken it back apart yet, as I'm waiting for the new intake kit and don't want to leave the heads open for days, but I am curious to see if the brass insert is missing from bolt hole. I would think they are there for that reason, I could be wrong. But that one bolt literally just crushed the plastic.

 

[1955moose]

It could be. For next time, when your doing a job, and something doesn't look right, stop and find out before something like this happens to you. It never ceases to amaze me that prior owners, or shops in some cases do just the minimum, leaving parts off, or just doing a crappy prep on gaskets, parts. Well what I always did was put it in my head the next day, when I started pulling it apart, that this was a brand new job. It won't be the last time that you'll end up redoing a job. It's just part of wrenching.


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[PrestigeWorldwide]

That sux so did you have to buy another intake?

Yea. Just bought one off Amazon. I'd rather buy a new one and do it right than try and repair the old with no results. The trucks in great shape and has done me well the past year so it's definitely worth it for peace of mind.

 

[PrestigeWorldwide]

It could be. For next time, when your doing a job, and something doesn't look right, stop and find out before something like this happens to you. It never ceases to amaze me that prior owners, or shops in some cases do just the minimum, leaving parts off, or just doing a crappy prep on gaskets, parts. Well what I always did was put it in my head the next day, when I started pulling it apart, that this was a brand new job. It won't be the last time that you'll end up redoing a job. It's just part of wrenching.


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Agreed. A few extra minutes for gasket/surface prep and double checking doesn't take the time it would to re-do everything.

On another note, curiosity got the best of me and I pulled the intake back off. The insert was still there, although it was severely distorted, and the housing part of it completely smashed/cracked. No way it would ever have been able to be torqued right.

 

[1955moose]

That or get a new plastic dealer unit.


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[1955moose]

Well it looks like those aftermarket intakes are a throw away item. Why can't they add a little reinforcement. That would be too easy. It's all about cost/ profit. Always is these days.


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[hartsemperfi]

Any pics? What brand of the damaged one?

 

[PrestigeWorldwide]

Any pics? What brand of the damaged one?

It was a Dorman. Part #615-188. I didn't take any pictures last night, but I'll snap one this evening after work.

 

[PrestigeWorldwide]

Well it looks like those aftermarket intakes are a throw away item. Why can't they add a little reinforcement. That would be too easy. It's all about cost/ profit. Always is these days.


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Well I guess if they made them last forever they wouldn't sell as many. Sad but true.

 

[hartsemperfi]

Oh goodness i just bought one of them i will definately take my time

 

[PrestigeWorldwide]

Oh goodness i just bought one of them i will definately take my time

Make sure you clean up the gasket surfaces well, and clean the bolt hole threads on the head, and especially the 2 bolts for the thermostat housing. I would also replace the thermostat housing bolts if they are even a little corroded.

 

[hartsemperfi]

Make sure you clean up the gasket surfaces well, and clean the bolt hole threads on the head, and especially the 2 bolts for the thermostat housing. I would also replace the thermostat housing bolts if they are even a little corroded.

Oh yea all prep work been done just waiting on parts to arrive. Wire brushed bolts, blew out all holes. Bought new injector seals.

 

[1955moose]

Actually the best way to clean out threads, is to chase them with a tap of that size. You can use the pitch gauge that comes with the tap set.


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[PrestigeWorldwide]

Intake came in today so decided to go ahead and get this installed after work as I'm impatient and hate to see my truck just sitting....

Well this time around it was a success! It went in a lot smoother this time, and I did learn that the intake needed to be lined up perfect for the bolts to be torqued smoothly. I beleive that was my mistake last time. A very costly one. Just glad to have my Expy back. No more misfire code, no more smoking tail pipe. Seems to run a lot better, I'm sure the new coils, plugs, and air filter helped that. Thanks moose for all your help and input, as well as everyone else.