Finally let her off the leash!

[rjdelp7]

What?? The Expy is not built for off-road? And the Hummer is???? Whoa. Off-road people around here (like half the population) NEVER drive Hummers especially off road. Hummers are built for people's ego to make others think they are bullet-proof.

There are many ways to drive off-road for pleasure in the back country and avoid scratches and dents. It is the risk that drives exploration. In many nanny states, the government has legislated risk out of life. That is why I love working my career in Nevada.

I purchased the Expy for both gentle off-road and road trips. It excels at both!!! Like I said, try it, you'll like it!!!!

A 2017 Expedition, was designed for soccer Moms, to get groceries and go to Walmart. I did a 2 year lease, 11 years ago on H3 Hummer. Not for ego, it was a good deal($210/month) and I live in Buffalo(winter snow). It has a 23.5" clearance(better than Jeep) and skid plates. It was built similar to the Ford Raptor. The dealer had an obstacle course you could drive on. I can vouch for, that, no way an Expedition could of made it. I have owned over 30 vehicles(Vettes Mustangs,Motorcycles), The Hummer got the most attention, everywhere I went. It was weird, every place I went, friends, family, co-workers, women and even kids asked about it. Kind of a shame GM dropped them, with Pontiac and Saturn. The H3 was bigger than a Jeep and a bit smaller than Expedition

 

[cullinan18]

Folks, to each their own. Nevada isn't rock crawling and it's HIS Expy. I would assume that since he is taking it light off roading, he is ok with scratches and dings that may happen. He isn't comparing the vehicle to a Rubicon or suggesting going up the Gold Mine Hill 2.0.

I fully understand the hesitation of taking out a brand new 60k vehicle, but others won't have any issue with taking THEIR vehicle wherever they want. Heck, I don't like having my kids eat in my '17 Expy, but would like to get a little dirt and mud on the tires.

 

[NevadaGeo]

Folks, to each their own. Nevada isn't rock crawling and it's HIS Expy. I would assume that since he is taking it light off roading, he is ok with scratches and dings that may happen. He isn't comparing the vehicle to a Rubicon or suggesting going up the Gold Mine Hill 2.0.

I fully understand the hesitation of taking out a brand new 60k vehicle, but others won't have any issue with taking THEIR vehicle wherever they want. Heck, I don't like having my kids eat in my '17 Expy, but would like to get a little dirt and mud on the tires.

yeah Cullinan, it is common sense to take care of your new vehicle, but I did make the purchase with off-road in mind. Living in northern Nevada, off-road is everything with the variety of mountains, rivers and lakes we can get to. Just no paved roads!!

As mentioned earlier, we never see Hummers off-road around here. To each his own!

 

[rjdelp7]

Folks, to each their own. Nevada isn't rock crawling and it's HIS Expy. I would assume that since he is taking it light off roading, he is ok with scratches and dings that may happen. He isn't comparing the vehicle to a Rubicon or suggesting going up the Gold Mine Hill 2.0.

I fully understand the hesitation of taking out a brand new 60k vehicle, but others won't have any issue with taking THEIR vehicle wherever they want. Heck, I don't like having my kids eat in my '17 Expy, but would like to get a little dirt and mud on the tires.[/QUOTE

yeah Cullinan, it is common sense to take care of your new vehicle, but I did make the purchase with off-road in mind. Living in northern Nevada, off-road is everything with the variety of mountains, rivers and lakes we can get to. Just no paved roads!!

As mentioned earlier, we never see Hummers off-road around here. To each his own!

Hummers are not for sale anymore, except China. There weren't many around to begin with. What about Jeeps or pickup trucks?

 

[powerboatr]

this picture, i was off road and 4wd locked in, it was on the track siding, slippery and rutty.
I use my 4wd and auto 4wd ALOT, just dont rock crawl or go swamping with it, but it does just fine getting us down the oil field roads to look for piggies,
i stay far away from limbs and unknown holes,
i will put a bogger or swamper on the trailer.
i am sure everyone else treats theirs the way they can afford respectively.
I think we meandered off topic, Nevadageo was imo simply stating how well his did on the trails he knows from vast experience and walks ones he does not.

 

[NevadaGeo]

Hummers are not for sale anymore, except China. There weren't many around to begin with. What about Jeeps or pickup trucks?

Jeeps and pickups are most common around here as exploration vehicles. Mind you, where we live and do our work is very rugged country and is the "outback" of America. Here in Nevada we have the largest and most prospective area in the USA that is under-explored wrt mineral resources. Our job is to explore for and discover the next gold, silver and base metal deposits that can be used to further the strength of our country. We currently import many of our raw materials from many "unfriendly" sources and it is our duty as exploration geologists to keep our resources home grown, adding (keeping) wealth in the USA. For years, the liberal wing of the USA has done everything possible to kill the mining industry in the USA, becoming foaming mouthed and silly along the way, all believing they are altruistic and speaking for the good of Americans. All this has done is put high-paying jobs out of the USA and into the hands of third world thugs.

I view my Expedition as my trusty steed similar to the old prospectors with their trusted mules. We still use pick axes and hammers, but now we have awesome rock drills and mining equipment. It all starts with the trusted steed and the boots on the ground.

Sorry for the rant. I feel better now!!

 

[jeff kushner]

AMEN BROTHER!!! It's like the Gent in Texas said on the Billboard that he rented: The Russians didn't elect Donald Trump, I DID!

Keep up the good work for our country and the force is strong with you Nev!!

jeff

 

[LokiWolf]

A 2017 Expedition, was designed for soccer Moms, to get groceries and go to Walmart. I did a 2 year lease, 11 years ago on H3 Hummer. Not for ego, it was a good deal($210/month) and I live in Buffalo(winter snow). It has a 23.5" clearance(better than Jeep) and skid plates. It was built similar to the Ford Raptor. The dealer had an obstacle course you could drive on. I can vouch for, that, no way an Expedition could of made it. I have owned over 30 vehicles(Vettes Mustangs,Motorcycles), The Hummer got the most attention, everywhere I went. It was weird, every place I went, friends, family, co-workers, women and even kids asked about it. Kind of a shame GM dropped them, with Pontiac and Saturn. The H3 was bigger than a Jeep and a bit smaller than Expedition

Look out, he might complain that your EB motor will break down on you out on the trail, and that it does not have enough power...The 5.0 is better...

Had a F250 7.5 Inches of lift and 35's that my wife drove before the Expy. Other than clearance, the Expy runs circles around it off road. The Traction management system does an excellent job of keep the wheels with grip moving. The F250 did everything by brute force, the Expy does it with grace and a MUCH better ride.

 

[LokiWolf]

He isn't comparing the vehicle to a Rubicon or suggesting going up the Gold Mine Hill 2.0.

Love the TFL reference! Love that Youtube group!!!

 

[rjdelp7]

Look out, he might complain that your EB motor will break down on you out on the trail, and that it does not have enough power...The 5.0 is better...

Had a F250 7.5 Inches of lift and 35's that my wife drove before the Expy. Other than clearance, the Expy runs circles around it off road. The Traction management system does an excellent job of keep the wheels with grip moving. The F250 did everything by brute force, the Expy does it with grace and a MUCH better ride.

I suspect LokiWolf is a Ford marketing rep, the way he praises the Eco-boost. If he not, he should apply for the job. He is really going to jinks himself, with problems. I like to see what happens, to a eco, splashing through deep water with 1700 degree, red hot turbos. Not mention driving through dry brush. Can you say wildfire?

 

[Hayes Riviere]

Is the 2017 a lease? I can't believe someone would "off road", a new, $50,000 vehicle. Esp. with no skid plates and street tires. You insurance company must love you....

Hey, that's what the Expedition is made for. I live 30 miles away from any kind of paved road, and not only do I have to drive over a ****** dirt road, I also have to drive in the snow with it. My dad and I both have Expeditions because they're great at conquering the Montana wilderness.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

AMEN BROTHER!!! It's like the Gent in Texas said on the Billboard that he rented: The Russians didn't elect Donald Trump, I DID!

Keep up the good work for our country and the force is strong with you Nev!!

jeff

And so did I and it had nothing to do with Russians. I picked him as soon as he threw his hat in the ring - long before anybody in the media thought he had even the remotest possibility of winning, but I digress...

 

[ExplorerTom]

I like to see what happens, to a eco, splashing through deep water with 1700 degree, red hot turbos. Not mention driving through dry brush. Can you say wildfire?

Probably similar to what happens to any naturally aspirated engine with it's hot headers/manifolds and catalytic converters when it splashes through water.

Nothing.

I do it all the time.

Let's spare the drama.

 

[LokiWolf]

I suspect LokiWolf is a Ford marketing rep, the way he praises the Eco-boost. If he not, he should apply for the job. He is really going to jinks himself, with problems. I like to see what happens, to a eco, splashing through deep water with 1700 degree, red hot turbos. Not mention driving through dry brush. Can you say wildfire?

Yep, work for ford, that is why both of my previous vehicles were TDI VW's... Would still own one, and not my Edge, if my Buyback wasn't too much to ignore.

I just know turbos and motors...oh and I understand logic.

 

[NevadaGeo]

I suspect LokiWolf is a Ford marketing rep, the way he praises the Eco-boost. If he not, he should apply for the job. He is really going to jinks himself, with problems. I like to see what happens, to a eco, splashing through deep water with 1700 degree, red hot turbos. Not mention driving through dry brush. Can you say wildfire?

rjdelp7, you are absolutely right! After all this time doing field work in Nevada I never thought of dry grass, brush and the possibility of wildfire. I have always been careful of my catalytic converters, and now I have to worry about my turbos as well. What was I thinking over these last 30 years?? I can't believe I have been so irresponsible and unsafe.

I now see the error of my ways. What was I thinking all along?? From now on, I will not go off-road anymore and stay in my office. I will search the web and find an app that will allow me to use in my GIS program to locate economic ore bodies that have yet to be discovered. After all the new discoveries are located, we will reach out to the stock market to fund a fleet of helicopters to ferry in teams of geologists to these new sites. Once located on the ground, the contracted helicopters will bring in supplies, drilling rigs, water, and housing for all the exploration camp crew. It will be new wealth for so many people. Many make-work jobs for a new industry.

This new approach will save grass from wildfire, but will consume hundreds of millions of exploration dollars that I hope you are now investing in. Or we can always ask the government to fund us using the tax base. Some people don't mind paying higher taxes for the good of mankind anymore. BTW, I love doing geology from helicopters!!

 

[rjdelp7]

rjdelp7, you are absolutely right! After all this time doing field work in Nevada I never thought of dry grass, brush and the possibility of wildfire. I have always been careful of my catalytic converters, and now I have to worry about my turbos as well. What was I thinking over these last 30 years?? I can't believe I have been so irresponsible and unsafe.

I now see the error of my ways. What was I thinking all along?? From now on, I will not go off-road anymore and stay in my office. I will search the web and find an app that will allow me to use in my GIS program to locate economic ore bodies that have yet to be discovered. After all the new discoveries are located, we will reach out to the stock market to fund a fleet of helicopters to ferry in teams of geologists to these new sites. Once located on the ground, the contracted helicopters will bring in supplies, drilling rigs, water, and housing for all the exploration camp crew. It will be new wealth for so many people. Many make-work jobs for a new industry.

This new approach will save grass from wildfire, but will consume hundreds of millions of exploration dollars that I hope you are now investing in. Or we can always ask the government to fund us using the tax base. Some people don't mind paying higher taxes for the good of mankind anymore. BTW, I love doing geology from helicopters!!

Have fun driving a beat 2017.

 

[JExpedition07]

I suspect LokiWolf is a Ford marketing rep, the way he praises the Eco-boost. If he not, he should apply for the job. He is really going to jinks himself, with problems. I like to see what happens, to a eco, splashing through deep water with 1700 degree, red hot turbos. Not mention driving through dry brush. Can you say wildfire?

Not to argue with anyone but if anything causing a wildfire it's going to be your few thousand degree catylitic converters lmao. Not some turbos under the hood. Just took my "soccer mom" SUV off road today and it did great and rode a lot better than a hummer. On a side note A family member just got a brand new platinum F150 with the 3.5 and pulled me outside at a party to drive it. When we got out he told me to floor it, I was pretty impressed when I got thrown back in the seat.

 

[LokiWolf]

Not to argue with anyone but if anything causing a wildfire it's going to be your few thousand degree catylitic converters lmao. Not some turbos under the hood. Just took my "soccer mom" SUV off road today and it did great and rode a lot better than a hummer. On a side note A family member just got a brand new platinum F150 with the 3.5 and pulled me outside at a party to drive it. When we got out he told me to floor it, I was pretty impressed when I got thrown back in the seat.

Yeah, haven't had the pleasure of driving the new 2nd gen 3.5 yet, but rode in one. It felt REALLY strong. The 2018 Expy's will be even more of a beast than the 15-17 because of that motor!

 

[jeff kushner]

I would love to see the actual differences in the 1st gen 3.5 compared to the 2nd gen 3.5. My understanding, which could well be incorrect is that they mildly repositioned the new higher boost turbos for more laminar flow, adding electronically controlled waste gates and adding port injection in addition to the existing DFI.

Livernois motor sports had observed when adding huge HP to the gen 1, an issue with the crank bearings at around the 420HP mark so my guess is that has been addressed as well since Ford has already announced much higher HP #'s for the 2nd gen 3.5.....kinda makes me yearn for one but I have the right tools to scratch any speed-need itch I have in the garage and am quite happy with my gen 1 3.5!

But, if anyone decides they want more, they claim to get you 80+ more HP & have an excellent rep for doing what they claim!!

https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP631125

jeff

 

[LokiWolf]

I would love to see the actual differences in the 1st gen 3.5 compared to the 2nd gen 3.5. My understanding, which could well be incorrect is that they mildly repositioned the new higher boost turbos for more laminar flow, adding electronically controlled waste gates and adding port injection in addition to the existing DFI.

Livernois motor sports had observed when adding huge HP to the gen 1, an issue with the crank bearings at around the 420HP mark so my guess is that has been addressed as well since Ford has already announced much higher HP #'s for the 2nd gen 3.5.....kinda makes me yearn for one but I have the right tools to scratch any speed-need itch I have in the garage and am quite happy with my gen 1 3.5!

But, if anyone decides they want more, they claim to get you 80+ more HP & have an excellent rep for doing what they claim!!

https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP631125

jeff

OH, LMS does what they claim. Still haven't tuned the Expy, but my Edge Sport is running their 93 Aggressive tune...and it is FUN! Not that the 2.7EB is a slouch from the factory, but with a 93Octane tune...it is REALLY fun to embarass cars 2 and 3 times the price tag, touted as performance!