10/27/17 Announcement from the Ford Kentucky Truck Plant

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shane_th_ee

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If you’re going to spend $80k to off-road a large SUV, why wouldn’t you just get a Land Cruiser and be done with it?
 

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If you’re going to spend $80k to off-road a large SUV, why wouldn’t you just get a Land Cruiser and be done with it?
Little part did want to buy American and the 3rd row in the land rover is an after thought. Not to mention to equip one that compares to the Navi Reserve I ordered you are spending far more up front and long term maintenance on them from what I’ve been told is costly as well. If I didn’t have 2 kids in car seats with the gear that goes along with them and road trips cross country we will take then maybe a Land Rover would work, especially without the kids I’d have way more money to play with.
 

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...the 3rd row in the land rover
I said "Land Cruiser", as in the Toyota; not "Land Rover". I do get the desire to buy American though. But for off road, the Expedition is a significant compromise compared to the Toyota. The only "off-roading" we'll be doing is poorly maintained forest service roads, for which the FX4 package seems plenty sufficient.
 

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I said "Land Cruiser", as in the Toyota; not "Land Rover". I do get the desire to buy American though. But for off road, the Expedition is a significant compromise compared to the Toyota. The only "off-roading" we'll be doing is poorly maintained forest service roads, for which the FX4 package seems plenty sufficient.
I looked into the land cruiser and it really didn’t strike me as that nice when compared to the Expy it Navi. I think it need a refresh in the worst way, it really lacked in the options department as well if I remember correctly. Our off road needs won’t vary much from yours. We took my Subaru Baja out west and got along great except for a couple places where another inch of clearance and more power would have made the difference. It was easy to turn the small car around which is a luxury I’ll miss with the Navigator. We just had zero room inside the Baja so lots of gear went up top. We camp, hike, fish, shoot, and whatever else outdoors a lot so the extra space is going to be so useful.
 

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Whether hes talkin about the lr discovery or toyota land cruiser, the third row wpuld still be an issue. Also though the fx4 would be better suited for more extreme off roading, he would be locking himself out from all the features he was looking for in the nav. Though the 22s can hurt off roading, it seems more technique and knowledge than straight capability, cuz either way the navi will be more than capable. Hell the promotional vid of expy upon release was the platinum "off roading"
 

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They can do all the promotional videos they want 22” doesn’t work off road period. You’ll dent a rim first time out, if you don’t get stuck on the way. Don’t get me wrong If all your doing is some unkept roads you’ll be okay, I’m talking through soft ground.
 
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Whether hes talkin about the lr discovery or toyota land cruiser, the third row wpuld still be an issue. Also though the fx4 would be better suited for more extreme off roading, he would be locking himself out from all the features he was looking for in the nav. Though the 22s can hurt off roading, it seems more technique and knowledge than straight capability, cuz either way the navi will be more than capable. Hell the promotional vid of expy upon release was the platinum "off roading"
Not to mention the gas mileage of the Toyota and styling, their V8 is pretty thirsty and way less horsepower.
 

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I’d imagine your making a HUGE leap in power from a Subaru to the 3.5TT.
The Subaru had 173hp to the Navigator 450hp and 166 ft/lb to 510ft/lb in torque. That lil’ subie was great while I had it and it was just what I could afford at that stage in my life.....time to move on to the Dad-mobile though and I’m super excited.
 

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Thats great that will be a WORLD of difference. Your right though anyone can make do with whatever they can afford.
 

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Thats great that will be a WORLD of difference. Your right though anyone can make do with whatever they can afford.
So true, I made do for way longer than I needed but thankfully my wife and I are both on board to live below our means which allows us to splurge on long term ownership items like the family vehicle and great family vacations. I haven’t bought a new pair of blue jeans in 5 years and that was due to weight loss lol. To each their own though.
 

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Lawrence, when did you order yours?

Just trying to gauge mine which was ordered 8/31.

Also, what do you mean by "app"? The cotus.ford link?

Dennis
 

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Keep your eyes open guys, they ate hittin dealers now.
 

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None are coming on my immediate area, but some dealers about an hr plus away have dome awaiting shipment, so about a wk or two from delivery.
 
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