jeff kushner
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You can't blame the guys Loki....we're here most of the time and we know what we are used to hearing........this just seemed very atypical.....but certainly viable......
jeff
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2017 Water Leaks
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I agree with Jeff chill out Loki. Nobody is giving her a hard time. In fact she’s been kinda rude towards the folks giving her honest answers. What help is she looking to get here exactly? So far nobody else has experienced what she has and people have told her what they would do if put in her situation. Demand ford buy the vehicle back, consult with an attorney, buy another manufacturers car, etc. IMO the responses in this thread have been just fine.
I have to agree though 3 vehicles experiencing the exact same thing and one of them being a rental just seems crazy to me. Not calling anybody a liar but that just sounds odd.
I have to agree though 3 vehicles experiencing the exact same thing and one of them being a rental just seems crazy to me. Not calling anybody a liar but that just sounds odd.
John Christopher
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I'm not saying your lying, but 3 Expy's leaking in a row is hard to believe. It may be related to something your doing or just terrible luck. I think you should take JExpedition07's advice and go with a different brand. Good Luck.
Ya’ll are missing the point. She doesn’t want to go somewhere else. She came on here to find out if this was common on the 17, and if others have witnessed it.
In our opinion, it isn’t, but we are a REALLY small cross section of owners. This could be a thing that like I said above that affected a certain run.
She was only rude to those who called BS, and basically accused her of lying, even when she showed a video and pictures.
She owned 3 expeditions before the first 17, obviously she is happy with the product. Telling her to go somewhere else, just because she had REALLY bad luck with these 3 is crap.
I know of several people with Explorers and other ford vehicles with leaky SunRoofs, pretty common across many manufacturers. One of the main reason a lot of people avoid cars with them. One of my co-workers wives had a 13 or 14 Expedition with a leaky one, took them like 4/5 trips to the dealer to get it straight. Pretty sure the body shop at the dealer replaced the whole thing to finally fix it. That is all the 2nd one was for ExpyGal.
I am moving on, but we need to be a little less combative on here, especially to new members if we want them to stay around.
In our opinion, it isn’t, but we are a REALLY small cross section of owners. This could be a thing that like I said above that affected a certain run.
She was only rude to those who called BS, and basically accused her of lying, even when she showed a video and pictures.
She owned 3 expeditions before the first 17, obviously she is happy with the product. Telling her to go somewhere else, just because she had REALLY bad luck with these 3 is crap.
I know of several people with Explorers and other ford vehicles with leaky SunRoofs, pretty common across many manufacturers. One of the main reason a lot of people avoid cars with them. One of my co-workers wives had a 13 or 14 Expedition with a leaky one, took them like 4/5 trips to the dealer to get it straight. Pretty sure the body shop at the dealer replaced the whole thing to finally fix it. That is all the 2nd one was for ExpyGal.
I am moving on, but we need to be a little less combative on here, especially to new members if we want them to stay around.
Muddy Bean
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I’m so sorry to hear you’re having so much drama with your Expedition. My 2015 Limited does not leak a drop of water anywhere and I’ve washed it almost twice a week since I bought it in October. So I don’t have any data points for you. If you are sincerely having this problem with three different trucks I personally would be all over this with my lawyer and making sure Ford took the truck back and I’d be seriously considering a Sequoia or Tahoe/Suburban. This is crazy and I would likely be done with Ford for the rest of my life. Again, I’m so sorry. This is drama. You just want a vehicle to work, keep you dry and cool/warm and comfortable as well as safe and to get you where you need to go. If it doesn’t meet one of those basic needs, I’d be moving on without a doubt. So sorry. [emoji53]
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NASCAR Mike
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Sorry to hear about your problem. I have only had my Expy two months now and thankfully no leaks. I would prefer if mine did not come with a sunroof but I bought mine as a leftover before the 2018's came out so I had no choice.
Can you post the VIN #'s and build dates of each Expedition that leaked water? I think that may narrow down a build period.
Better yet, making use of the "Ignore" function has a wonderful effect. Left click on the offending posters' name, then click "Ignore".
Bigbadbull
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I have had a couple drops come in on the 3rd row side windows in a particular aggressive car wash on my 2016 KR. No major leaks. I will see the water drops on the inside of the windows when i am cleaning the glass immediately after going through, not a flood just a few drops. Nothing from major rain storms. No issues in the HVAC in the rear and middle seats, no sunroof issues.
I check a lot after car washes and major rains.
And I am super sensitive to water leaks on cars.. I had a E61 BMW wagon that got nicknamed the "Uboat"
I had the panorama sun roof leak every time it rained. It would fill up under the rear load floor and battery well in the trunk . That is were all the ECU's are located for the car and several wiring junctions. So every time it rained it would have to go in for service and have $15k-32k of electronics replaced in the car under warranty plus trim and carpeting. BMW did not see an issue with this and I had to get a BMW CCA Omesbuden involved. BMW ended up taking the car back. the Irony is that BMW sent me a Class action settlement notification about this very issue about a week after I got the 16 King ranch..
I check a lot after car washes and major rains.
And I am super sensitive to water leaks on cars.. I had a E61 BMW wagon that got nicknamed the "Uboat"
I had the panorama sun roof leak every time it rained. It would fill up under the rear load floor and battery well in the trunk . That is were all the ECU's are located for the car and several wiring junctions. So every time it rained it would have to go in for service and have $15k-32k of electronics replaced in the car under warranty plus trim and carpeting. BMW did not see an issue with this and I had to get a BMW CCA Omesbuden involved. BMW ended up taking the car back. the Irony is that BMW sent me a Class action settlement notification about this very issue about a week after I got the 16 King ranch..
JExpedition07
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I encourage anyone who can’t have a conversation like an adult and who can’t handle honest opinions to block me yes! We all gave honest advice of what we’d do in that situation. The points of failure are either sunroof gasket, luggage rack penetrations, or body sealant. Only other recommendation would be to take one through the car wash on an extended test drive. Nobody else has experienced the problem and the user was just plain rude to people giving opinions. I said that it was hard to believe and was honest then gave my best advice. she came asking if anyone else has seen it on this forum, so far nobody has, therefore what are we to do?? What we did. Thank you now she can go click on that ignore button, i would very much like that.
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My 2011 Expedition EL LTD has always had a leak in the rear window. The inside of the window always shows the trail of the water down the inside. The liftgate is rotting from the inside out. This started with less that 50k miles. I took it to the dealer, clearly there was an issue, and got told, it would only be covered when it rotted all the way through, if it happened before the 5 years was up. What a crock. It is more than 5 years old, more spots of rot have shown up all over the liftgate, but none made it through. The car has under 90k miles on it. I paid for a new window gasket out of my pocket. Next I will have to buy the liftgate. This is my 3rd or 4th Ford and the 2nd with water rusting out the liftgate. I thought after waiting 15 years between cars, Ford would have fixed the issue by now. Guess no more Fords for me.
JExpedition07
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That’s no good sorry to hear that. You’d be waiting forever and beyond for water to rot through aluminum, better off fixing the issue. Most likely you just have the paint bubbles everyone gets. I agree that’s a crock sounds like a crappy dealer.
What about a lease? That way if you still like it after 3 years you can just buy it then. Kind of like rent to own.
JExpedition07
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An 18? Yea that’s one route to go if your okay with that. I’m not big on leasing but it works well for some customers. I’d have a hard time renting a vehicle for over $600 per month personally. But if it fits your lifestyle and wants it does eliminate some risk of a lemon as you aren’t taking the depreciation.
You specifically called BS on her post...BS stands for ********. Which is saying what they are saying is crap, and is not true. You started the rudeness.
Sorry, but that is the honest truth. Some of your other replies were just as combative(You edited most) as were other people’s.
You did make some good points, but when your first post calls somebody a liar, they really aren’t going to pay much attention to you after that.
The tailgate is a known issue on the 3rd Gen Expy’s. Do a search on here for it. There is a LONG thread discussing it. Ford has basically ignored the problem.
John Christopher
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Everyone should relax. There is way too much drama here!
Muddy Bean
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Drama is when two girls cry over liking the same guy, and they are best friends, and the guy likes both of them and they like like just don’t like know what to do.
The previous posts....are not drama. Just a couple of peeps trying to get their points across. Let’s keep that straight.
Back on topic: I had my truck rust control sprayed today. Before I had them treat it, I power washed the whole truck and undercarriage in prep. I noticed I had a constant and never ending stream of dirty water coming from my tail gate handle and chrome trim. It literally never stopped. I’m wondering if that’s water from inside the lift gate mixing with the dust inside and draining out? These trucks do have water ingress and egress issues.
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John Christopher
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The definition of drama: A way of relating in the world in which people consistently overreact to or exaggerate the importance of benign events. So obviously there is more to drama then 2 school girls.
By the way thanks for creating more drama.
